Click on Owen Jones' Just go get your own oil. That's Donald Trump's latest outburst in his so-called true social uh website. He says, "You'll have to start learning how to fight for yourself. The USA won't be there to help you anymore, just like you weren't there for us." And he says it's countries like the UK need to have the courage to go to the Strait of Hormuz i and just take fuel.
Sounds a little bit like some attempt to sort of walk away from this disaster and just leave the straight of homos as is with all the economic consequences. We got a lot to talk about today with the incredible Yanis Varoufakis who doesn't really need an introduction. You know who he is. Brilliant economist, former Greek finance minister, author, great just a great all round guy as well which is helpful. Great to speak to you. How you doing?
Yanis Varoufakis: It's very good to see you on.
I'm very good. I'm, you know, feeling a bit uh sinful and I have this this guilt
that I'm reasonably well in a world that is going down the toilet.
Owen Jones: It is actually. I'm not going to try
and cushion that particular phraseology. It is what it is. We might as well
just be honest. How you let's just say how what's your general feeling right
now about a war which has now go on gone on for a month which Donald Trump
expected to be over in days after they took out the supreme leader. What's your
where where you at with this?
Yanis Varoufakis: Well, it's I have to say that I was very puzzled when he allowed Israel to do to him that which Israel failed to do in his first term because he recall of course and that in the first term of Donald Trump, Netanyahu again tried to railroad the United States like he he had done with other presidents before to try to get them to participate inmIsraeli US attack on Iran. And Trump had said no to that. And he was re-elected on the only silver lining in the thundercloud called Donald Trump was that he was saying no war unlike the Democrats who had consumed or gone into bed with the neocons. And so I have to say I was puzzled that he allowed himself to be dragged into this because once he was dragged into this there's no easy way out. What I do hope he does is that which uh Roman emperors used to do when the Roman Empire was not particularly strong and they would send legions to what is today Germany to fight the Goths and the Goths would kick their backside and then the Roman Emperor would declare victory and hold a triumph in London in London. My goodness, you see a radian sleep in Rome. So, you know, I'm hoping that he would do that but yeah, it would be a major comedown. He's got the midterms, but there is no alternative other than sinking deeper into into the quick sand of his own making. I mean that that's I guess, I keep talking about this, so apologies for those who are bored of my repetition, but you see this is where I get a bit stuck with this one because as things stand, if they just try and walk away, the US has suffered its biggest, I would say, strategic military defeat since it emerged as a superpower. It's worse than Vietnam……
