In 1967, as the Vietnam War escalated, Noam Chomsky penned The Responsibility of Intellectuals, a stunning rebuke to scientists and scholars for their subservience to political power. Today we face a similar array of crises, from wars to escalating debt. What are the obligations of intellectuals in this day and age?
Since we often cannot see what is happening before our eyes, it is perhaps not too surprising that what is at a slight distance removed is utterly invisible. We have just witnessed an instructive example: President Obama’s dispatch of 79 commandos into Pakistan on May 1 to carry out what was evidently a planned assassination of the prime suspect in the terrorist atrocities of 9/11, Osama bin Laden. Though the target of the operation, unarmed and with no protection, could easily have been apprehended, he was simply murdered, his body dumped at sea without autopsy. The action was deemed “just and necessary” in the liberal press. There will be no trial, as there was in the case of Nazi criminals—a fact not overlooked by legal authorities abroad who approve of the operation but object to the procedure. As Elaine Scarry reminds us, the prohibition of assassination in international law traces back to a forceful denunciation of the practice by Abraham Lincoln, who condemned the call for assassination as “international outlawry” in 1863, an “outrage,” which “civilized nations” view with “horror” and merits the “sternest retaliation.”
In 1967, writing about the deceit and distortion surrounding the American invasion of Vietnam, I discussed the responsibility of intellectuals, borrowing the phrase from an important essay of Dwight Macdonald’s after World War II. With the tenth anniversary of 9/11 arriving, and widespread approval in the United States of the assassination of the chief suspect, it seems a fitting time to revisit that issue. But before thinking about the responsibility of intellectuals, it is worth clarifying to whom we are referring.
The concept of intellectuals in the modern sense gained prominence with the 1898 “Manifesto of the Intellectuals” produced by the Dreyfusards who, inspired by Emile Zola’s open letter of protest to France’s president, condemned both the framing of French artillery officer Alfred Dreyfus on charges of treason and the subsequent military cover-up. The Dreyfusards’ stance conveys the image of intellectuals as defenders of justice, confronting power with courage and integrity. But they were hardly seen that way at the time. A minority of the educated classes, the Dreyfusards were bitterly condemned in the mainstream of intellectual life, in particular by prominent figures among “the immortals of the strongly anti-Dreyfusard Académie Française,” Steven Lukes writes. To the novelist, politician, and anti-Dreyfusard leader Maurice Barrès, Dreyfusards were “anarchists of the lecture-platform.” To another of these immortals, Ferdinand Brunetière, the very word “intellectual” signified “one of the most ridiculous eccentricities of our time—I mean the pretension of raising writers, scientists, professors and philologists to the rank of supermen,” who dare to “treat our generals as idiots, our social institutions as absurd and our traditions as unhealthy.”
Who then were the intellectuals? The minority inspired by Zola (who was sentenced to jail for libel, and fled the country)? Or the immortals of the academy? The question resonates through the ages, in one or another form, and today offers a framework for determining the “responsibility of intellectuals.” The phrase is ambiguous: does it refer to intellectuals’ moral responsibility as decent human beings in a position to use their privilege and status to advance the causes of freedom, justice, mercy, peace, and other such sentimental concerns? Or does it refer to the role they are expected to play, serving, not derogating, leadership and established institutions?
One answer came during World War I, when prominent intellectuals on all sides lined up enthusiastically in support of their own states.
In their “Manifesto of 93 German Intellectuals,” leading figures in one of the world’s most enlightened states called on the West to “have faith in us! Believe, that we shall carry on this war to the end as a civilized nation, to whom the legacy of a Goethe, a Beethoven, and a Kant, is just as sacred as its own hearths and homes.” Their counterparts on the other side of the intellectual trenches matched them in enthusiasm for the noble cause, but went beyond in self-adulation. In The New Republic they proclaimed, “The effective and decisive work on behalf of the war has been accomplished by . . . a class which must be comprehensively but loosely described as the ‘intellectuals.’” These progressives believed they were ensuring that the United States entered the war “under the influence of a moral verdict reached, after the utmost deliberation by the more thoughtful members of the community.” They were, in fact, the victims of concoctions of the British Ministry of Information, which secretly sought “to direct the thought of most of the world,” but particularly the thought of American progressive intellectuals who might help to whip a pacifist country into war fever.
John Dewey was impressed by the great “psychological and educational lesson” of the war, which proved that human beings—more precisely, “the intelligent men of the community”—can “take hold of human affairs and manage them . . . deliberately and intelligently” to achieve the ends sought, admirable by definition.
Not everyone toed the line so obediently, of course. Notable figures such as Bertrand Russell, Eugene Debs, Rosa Luxemburg, and Karl Liebknecht were, like Zola, sentenced to prison. Debs was punished with particular severity—a ten-year prison term for raising questions about President Wilson’s “war for democracy and human rights.” Wilson refused him amnesty after the war ended, though Harding finally relented. Some, such as Thorstein Veblen, were chastised but treated less harshly; Veblen was fired from his position in the Food Administration after preparing a report showing that the shortage of farm labor could be overcome by ending Wilson’s brutal persecution of labor, specifically the International Workers of the World. Randolph Bourne was dropped by the progressive journals after criticizing the “league of benevolently imperialistic nations” and their exalted endeavors.
The pattern of praise and punishment is a familiar one throughout history: those who line up in the service of the state are typically praised by the general intellectual community, and those who refuse to line up in service of the state are punished. Thus in retrospect Wilson and the progressive intellectuals who offered him their services are greatly honored, but not Debs. Luxemburg and Liebknecht were murdered and have hardly been heroes of the intellectual mainstream. Russell continued to be bitterly condemned until after his death—and in current biographies still is.
Since power tends to prevail, intellectuals who serve their governments are considered the responsible ones.
In the 1970s prominent scholars distinguished the two categories of intellectuals more explicitly. A 1975 study, The Crisis of Democracy, labeled Brunetière’s ridiculous eccentrics “value-oriented intellectuals” who pose a “challenge to democratic government which is, potentially at least, as serious as those posed in the past by aristocratic cliques, fascist movements, and communist parties.” Among other misdeeds, these dangerous creatures “devote themselves to the derogation of leadership, the challenging of authority,” and they challenge the institutions responsible for “the indoctrination of the young.” Some even sink to the depths of questioning the nobility of war aims, as Bourne had. This castigation of the miscreants who question authority and the established order was delivered by the scholars of the liberal internationalist Trilateral Commission; the Carter administration was largely drawn from their ranks.
Like The New Republic progressives during World War I, the authors of The Crisis of Democracy extend the concept of the “intellectual” beyond Brunetière’s ridiculous eccentrics to include the better sort as well: the “technocratic and policy-oriented intellectuals,” responsible and serious thinkers who devote themselves to the constructive work of shaping policy within established institutions and to ensuring that indoctrination of the young proceeds on course.
It took Dewey only a few years to shift from the responsible technocratic and policy-oriented intellectual of World War I to an anarchist of the lecture-platform, as he denounced the “un-free press” and questioned “how far genuine intellectual freedom and social responsibility are possible on any large scale under the existing economic regime.”
What particularly troubled the Trilateral scholars was the “excess of democracy” during the time of troubles, the 1960s, when normally passive and apathetic parts of the population entered the political arena to advance their concerns: minorities, women, the young, the old, working people . . . in short, the population, sometimes called the “special interests.” They are to be distinguished from those whom Adam Smith called the “masters of mankind,” who are “the principal architects” of government policy and pursue their “vile maxim”: “All for ourselves and nothing for other people.” The role of the masters in the political arena is not deplored, or discussed, in the Trilateral volume, presumably because the masters represent “the national interest,” like those who applauded themselves for leading the country to war “after the utmost deliberation by the more thoughtful members of the community” had reached its “moral verdict.”
To overcome the excessive burden imposed on the state by the special interests, the Trilateralists called for more “moderation in democracy,” a return to passivity on the part of the less deserving, perhaps even a return to the happy days when “Truman had been able to govern the country with the cooperation of a relatively small number of Wall Street lawyers and bankers,” and democracy therefore flourished.
The Trilateralists could well have claimed to be adhering to the original intent of the Constitution, “intrinsically an aristocratic document designed to check the democratic tendencies of the period” by delivering power to a “better sort” of people and barring “those who were not rich, well born, or prominent from exercising political power,” in the accurate words of the historian Gordon Wood. In Madison’s defense, however, we should recognize that his mentality was pre-capitalist. In determining that power should be in the hands of “the wealth of the nation,” “a the more capable set of men,” he envisioned those men on the model of the “enlightened Statesmen” and “benevolent philosopher” of the imagined Roman world. They would be “pure and noble,” “men of intelligence, patriotism, property, and independent circumstances” “whose wisdom may best discern the true interest of their country, and whose patriotism and love of justice will be least likely to sacrifice it to temporary or partial considerations.” So endowed, these men would “refine and enlarge the public views,” guarding the public interest against the “mischiefs” of democratic majorities. In a similar vein, the progressive Wilsonian intellectuals might have taken comfort in the discoveries of the behavioral sciences, explained in 1939 by the psychologist and education theorist Edward Thorndike:
It is the great good fortune of mankind that there is a substantial correlation between intelligence and morality including good will toward one’s fellows . . . . Consequently our superiors in ability are on the average our benefactors, and it is often safer to trust our interests to them than to ourselves.
A comforting doctrine, though some might feel that Adam Smith had the sharper eye.
Since power tends to prevail, intellectuals who serve their governments are considered responsible, and value-oriented intellectuals are dismissed or denigrated. At home that is.
With regard to enemies, the distinction between the two categories of intellectuals is retained, but with values reversed. In the old Soviet Union, the value-oriented intellectuals were the honored dissidents, while we had only contempt for the apparatchiks and commissars, the technocratic and policy-oriented intellectuals. Similarly in Iran we honor the courageous dissidents and condemn those who defend the clerical establishment. And elsewhere generally.
The honorable term “dissident” is used selectively. It does not, of course, apply, with its favorable connotations, to value-oriented intellectuals at home or to those who combat U.S.-supported tyranny abroad. Take the interesting case of Nelson Mandela, who was removed from the official terrorist list in 2008, and can now travel to the United States without special authorization.
Twenty years earlier, he was the criminal leader of one of the world’s “more notorious terrorist groups,” according to a Pentagon report. That is why President Reagan had to support the apartheid regime, increasing trade with South Africa in violation of congressional sanctions and supporting South Africa’s depredations in neighboring countries, which led, according to a UN study, to 1.5 million deaths. That was only one episode in the war on terrorism that Reagan declared to combat “the plague of the modern age,” or, as Secretary of State George Shultz had it, “a return to barbarism in the modern age.” We may add hundreds of thousands of corpses in Central America and tens of thousands more in the Middle East, among other achievements. Small wonder that the Great Communicator is worshipped by Hoover Institution scholars as a colossus whose “spirit seems to stride the country, watching us like a warm and friendly ghost,” recently honored further by a statue that defaces the American Embassy in London.
What particularly troubled the Trilateral scholars was the ‘excess of democracy’ in the 1960s.
The Latin American case is revealing. Those who called for freedom and justice in Latin America are not admitted to the pantheon of honored dissidents. For example, a week after the fall of the Berlin Wall, six leading Latin American intellectuals, all Jesuit priests, had their heads blown off on the direct orders of the Salvadoran high command. The perpetrators were from an elite battalion armed and trained by Washington that had already left a gruesome trail of blood and terror, and had just returned from renewed training at the John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center and School at Fort Bragg, North Carolina. The murdered priests are not commemorated as honored dissidents, nor are others like them throughout the hemisphere. Honored dissidents are those who called for freedom in enemy domains in Eastern Europe, who certainly suffered, but not remotely like their counterparts in Latin America.
The distinction is worth examination, and tells us a lot about the two senses of the phrase “responsibility of intellectuals,” and about ourselves. It is not seriously in question, as John Coatsworth writes in the recently published Cambridge University History of the Cold War, that from 1960 to “the Soviet collapse in 1990, the numbers of political prisoners, torture victims, and executions of nonviolent political dissenters in Latin America vastly exceeded those in the Soviet Union and its East European satellites.” Among the executed were many religious martyrs, and there were mass slaughters as well, consistently supported or initiated by Washington.
Why then the distinction? It might be argued that what happened in Eastern Europe is far more momentous than the fate of the South at our hands. It would be interesting to see the argument spelled out. And also to see the argument explaining why we should disregard elementary moral principles, among them that if we are serious about suffering and atrocities, about justice and rights, we will focus our efforts on where we can do the most good—typically, where we share responsibility for what is being done. We have no difficulty demanding that our enemies follow such principles.
Few of us care, or should, what Andrei Sakharov or Shirin Ebadi say about U.S. or Israeli crimes; we admire them for what they say and do about those of their own states, and the conclusion holds far more strongly for those who live in more free and democratic societies, and therefore have far greater opportunities to act effectively. It is of some interest that in the most respected circles, practice is virtually the opposite of what elementary moral values dictate.
But let us conform and keep only to the matter of historical import.
The U.S. wars in Latin America from 1960 to 1990, quite apart from their horrors, have long-term historical significance. To consider just one important aspect, in no small measure they were wars against the Church, undertaken to crush a terrible heresy proclaimed at Vatican II in 1962, which, under the leadership of Pope John XXIII, “ushered in a new era in the history of the Catholic Church,” in the words of the distinguished theologian Hans Küng, restoring the teachings of the gospels that had been put to rest in the fourth century when the Emperor Constantine established Christianity as the religion of the Roman Empire, instituting “a revolution” that converted “the persecuted church” to a “persecuting church.” The heresy of Vatican II was taken up by Latin American bishops who adopted the “preferential option for the poor.” Priests, nuns, and laypersons then brought the radical pacifist message of the gospels to the poor, helping them organize to ameliorate their bitter fate in the domains of U.S. power.
That same year, 1962, President Kennedy made several critical decisions. One was to shift the mission of the militaries of Latin America from “hemispheric defense”—an anachronism from World War II—to “internal security,” in effect, war against the domestic population, if they raise their heads. Charles Maechling, who led U.S. counterinsurgency and internal defense planning from 1961 to 1966, describes the unsurprising consequences of the 1962 decision as a shift from toleration “of the rapacity and cruelty of the Latin American military” to “direct complicity” in their crimes to U.S. support for “the methods of Heinrich Himmler’s extermination squads.” One major initiative was a military coup in Brazil, planned in Washington and implemented shortly after Kennedy’s assassination, instituting a murderous and brutal national security state. The plague of repression then spread through the hemisphere, including the 1973 coup installing the Pinochet dictatorship, and later the most vicious of all, the Argentine dictatorship, Reagan’s favorite. Central America’s turn—not for the first time—came in the 1980s under the leadership of the “warm and friendly ghost” who is now revered for his achievements.
The murder of the Jesuit intellectuals as the Berlin wall fell was a final blow in defeating the heresy, culminating a decade of horror in El Salvador that opened with the assassination, by much the same hands, of Archbishop Óscar Romero, the “voice for the voiceless.” The victors in the war against the Church declare their responsibility with pride. The School of the Americas (since renamed), famous for its training of Latin American killers, announces as one of its “talking points” that the liberation theology that was initiated at Vatican II was “defeated with the assistance of the US army.”
Actually, the November 1989 assassinations were almost a final blow. More was needed.
A year later Haiti had its first free election, and to the surprise and shock of Washington, which like others had anticipated the easy victory of its own candidate from the privileged elite, the organized public in the slums and hills elected Jean-Bertrand Aristide, a popular priest committed to liberation theology. The United States at once moved to undermine the elected government, and after the military coup that overthrew it a few months later, lent substantial support to the vicious military junta and its elite supporters. Trade was increased in violation of international sanctions and increased further under Clinton, who also authorized the Texaco oil company to supply the murderous rulers, in defiance of his own directives.
I will skip the disgraceful aftermath, amply reviewed elsewhere, except to point out that in 2004, the two traditional torturers of Haiti, France and the United States, joined by Canada, forcefully intervened, kidnapped President Aristide (who had been elected again), and shipped him off to central Africa. He and his party were effectively barred from the farcical 2010–11 elections, the most recent episode in a horrendous history that goes back hundreds of years and is barely known among the perpetrators of the crimes, who prefer tales of dedicated efforts to save the suffering people from their grim fate.
If we are serious about justice, we will focus our efforts where we share responsibility for what is being done.
Another fateful Kennedy decision in 1962 was to send a special forces mission to Colombia, led by General William Yarborough, who advised the Colombian security forces to undertake “paramilitary, sabotage and/or terrorist activities against known communist proponents,” activities that “should be backed by the United States.” The meaning of the phrase “communist proponents” was spelled out by the respected president of the Colombian Permanent Committee for Human Rights, former Minister of Foreign Affairs Alfredo Vázquez Carrizosa, who wrote that the Kennedy administration “took great pains to transform our regular armies into counterinsurgency brigades, accepting the new strategy of the death squads,” ushering in what is known in Latin America as the National Security Doctrine. . . . [not] defense against an external enemy, but a way to make the military establishment the masters of the game . . . [with] the right to combat the internal enemy, as set forth in the Brazilian doctrine, the Argentine doctrine, the Uruguayan doctrine, and the Colombian doctrine: it is the right to fight and to exterminate social workers, trade unionists, men and women who are not supportive of the establishment, and who are assumed to be communist extremists. And this could mean anyone, including human rights activists such as myself.
In a 1980 study, Lars Schoultz, the leading U.S. academic specialist on human rights in Latin America, found that U.S. aid “has tended to flow disproportionately to Latin American governments which torture their citizens . . . to the hemisphere’s relatively egregious violators of fundamental human rights.” That included military aid, was independent of need, and continued through the Carter years. Ever since the Reagan administration, it has been superfluous to carry out such a study. In the 1980s one of the most notorious violators was El Salvador, which accordingly became the leading recipient of U.S. military aid, to be replaced by Colombia when it took the lead as the worst violator of human rights in the hemisphere. Vázquez Carrizosa himself was living under heavy guard in his Bogotá residence when I visited him there in 2002 as part of a mission of Amnesty International, which was opening its year-long campaign to protect human rights defenders in Colombia because of the country’s horrifying record of attacks against human rights and labor activists, and mostly the usual victims of state terror: the poor and defenseless. Terror and torture in Colombia were supplemented by chemical warfare (“fumigation”), under the pretext of the war on drugs, leading to huge flight to urban slums and misery for the survivors. Colombia’s attorney general’s office now estimates that more than 140,000 people have been killed by paramilitaries, often acting in close collaboration with the U.S.-funded military.
Signs of the slaughter are everywhere. On a nearly impassible dirt road to a remote village in southern Colombia a year ago, my companions and I passed a small clearing with many simple crosses marking the graves of victims of a paramilitary attack on a local bus. Reports of the killings are graphic enough; spending a little time with the survivors, who are among the kindest and most compassionate people I have ever had the privilege of meeting, makes the picture more vivid, and only more painful.
This is the briefest sketch of terrible crimes for which Americans bear substantial culpability, and that we could easily ameliorate, at the very least.
But it is more gratifying to bask in praise for courageously protesting the abuses of official enemies, a fine activity, but not the priority of a value-oriented intellectual who takes the responsibilities of that stance seriously.
The victims within our domains, unlike those in enemy states, are not merely ignored and quickly forgotten, but are also cynically insulted. One striking illustration came a few weeks after the murder of the Latin American intellectuals in El Salvador. Vaclav Havel visited Washington and addressed a joint session of Congress. Before his enraptured audience, Havel lauded the “defenders of freedom” in Washington who “understood the responsibility that flowed from” being “the most powerful nation on earth”—crucially, their responsibility for the brutal assassination of his Salvadoran counterparts shortly before.
The liberal intellectual class was enthralled by his presentation. Havel reminds us that “we live in a romantic age,” Anthony Lewis gushed. Other prominent liberal commentators reveled in Havel’s “idealism, his irony, his humanity,” as he “preached a difficult doctrine of individual responsibility” while Congress “obviously ached with respect” for his genius and integrity; and asked why America lacks intellectuals so profound, who “elevate morality over self-interest” in this way, praising us for the tortured and mutilated corpses that litter the countries that we have left in misery. We need not tarry on what the reaction would have been had Father Ellacuría, the most prominent of the murdered Jesuit intellectuals, spoken such words at the Duma after elite forces armed and trained by the Soviet Union assassinated Havel and half a dozen of his associates—a performance that is inconceivable.
The assassination of bin Laden, too, directs our attention to our insulted victims. There is much more to say about the operation—including Washington’s willingness to face a serious risk of major war and even leakage of fissile materials to jihadis, as I have discussed elsewhere—but let us keep to the choice of name: Operation Geronimo. The name caused outrage in Mexico and was protested by indigenous groups in the United States, but there seems to have been no further notice of the fact that Obama was identifying bin Laden with the Apache Indian chief. Geronimo led the courageous resistance to invaders who sought to consign his people to the fate of “that hapless race of native Americans, which we are exterminating with such merciless and perfidious cruelty, among the heinous sins of this nation, for which I believe God will one day bring [it] to judgement,” in the words of the grand strategist John Quincy Adams, the intellectual architect of manifest destiny, uttered long after his own contributions to these sins. The casual choice of the name is reminiscent of the ease with which we name our murder weapons after victims of our crimes: Apache, Blackhawk, Cheyenne . . . We might react differently if the Luftwaffe were to call its fighter planes “Jew” and “Gypsy.”
The first 9/11, unlike the second, did not change the world. It was ‘nothing of very great consequence,’ Kissinger said.
Denial of these “heinous sins” is sometimes explicit. To mention a few recent cases, two years ago in one of the world’s leading left-liberal intellectual journals, The New York Review of Books, Russell Baker outlined what he learned from the work of the “heroic historian” Edmund Morgan: namely, that when Columbus and the early explorers arrived they “found a continental vastness sparsely populated by farming and hunting people . . . . In the limitless and unspoiled world stretching from tropical jungle to the frozen north, there may have been scarcely more than a million inhabitants.” The calculation is off by many tens of millions, and the “vastness” included advanced civilizations throughout the continent. No reactions appeared, though four months later the editors issued a correction, noting that in North America there may have been as many as 18 million people—and, unmentioned, tens of millions more “from tropical jungle to the frozen north.” This was all well known decades ago—including the advanced civilizations and the “merciless and perfidious cruelty” of the “extermination”—but not important enough even for a casual phrase. In London Review of Books a year later, the noted historian Mark Mazower mentioned American “mistreatment of the Native Americans,” again eliciting no comment. Would we accept the word “mistreatment” for comparable crimes committed by enemies?
If the responsibility of intellectuals refers to their moral responsibility as decent human beings in a position to use their privilege and status to advance the cause of freedom, justice, mercy, and peace—and to speak out not simply about the abuses of our enemies, but, far more significantly, about the crimes in which we are implicated and can ameliorate or terminate if we choose—how should we think of 9/11?
The notion that 9/11 “changed the world” is widely held, understandably. The events of that day certainly had major consequences, domestic and international. One was to lead President Bush to re-declare Ronald Reagan’s war on terrorism—the first one has been effectively “disappeared,” to borrow the phrase of our favorite Latin American killers and torturers, presumably because the consequences do not fit well with preferred self images. Another consequence was the invasion of Afghanistan, then Iraq, and more recently military interventions in several other countries in the region and regular threats of an attack on Iran (“all options are open,” in the standard phrase). The costs, in every dimension, have been enormous. That suggests a rather obvious question, not asked for the first time: was there an alternative?
A number of analysts have observed that bin Laden won major successes in his war against the United States. “He repeatedly asserted that the only way to drive the U.S. from the Muslim world and defeat its satraps was by drawing Americans into a series of small but expensive wars that would ultimately bankrupt them,” the journalist Eric Margolis writes.
The United States, first under George W. Bush and then Barack Obama, rushed right into bin Laden’s trap. . . . Grotesquely overblown military outlays and debt addiction . . . . may be the most pernicious legacy of the man who thought he could defeat the United States.
A report from the Costs of War project at Brown University’s Watson Institute for International Studies estimates that the final bill will be $3.2–4 trillion. Quite an impressive achievement by bin Laden.
That Washington was intent on rushing into bin Laden’s trap was evident at once. Michael Scheuer, the senior CIA analyst responsible for tracking bin Laden from 1996 to 1999, writes, “Bin Laden has been precise in telling America the reasons he is waging war on us.” The al Qaeda leader, Scheuer continues, “is out to drastically alter U.S. and Western policies toward the Islamic world.”
And, as Scheuer explains, bin Laden largely succeeded: “U.S. forces and policies are completing the radicalization of the Islamic world, something Osama bin Laden has been trying to do with substantial but incomplete success since the early 1990s. As a result, I think it is fair to conclude that the United States of America remains bin Laden’s only indispensable ally.” And arguably remains so, even after his death.
There is good reason to believe that the jihadi movement could have been split and undermined after the 9/11 attack, which was criticized harshly within the movement. Furthermore, the “crime against humanity,” as it was rightly called, could have been approached as a crime, with an international operation to apprehend the likely suspects. That was recognized in the immediate aftermath of the attack, but no such idea was even considered by decision-makers in government. It seems no thought was given to the Taliban’s tentative offer—how serious an offer, we cannot know—to present the al Qaeda leaders for a judicial proceeding.
At the time, I quoted Robert Fisk’s conclusion that the horrendous crime of 9/11 was committed with “wickedness and awesome cruelty”—an accurate judgment. The crimes could have been even worse. Suppose that Flight 93, downed by courageous passengers in Pennsylvania, had bombed the White House, killing the president. Suppose that the perpetrators of the crime planned to, and did, impose a military dictatorship that killed thousands and tortured tens of thousands. Suppose the new dictatorship established, with the support of the criminals, an international terror center that helped impose similar torture-and-terror states elsewhere, and, as icing on the cake, brought in a team of economists—call them “the Kandahar boys”—who quickly drove the economy into one of the worst depressions in its history. That, plainly, would have been a lot worse than 9/11.
As we all should know, this is not a thought experiment. It happened. I am, of course, referring to what in Latin America is often called “the first 9/11”: September 11, 1973, when the United States succeeded in its intensive efforts to overthrow the democratic government of Salvador Allende in Chile with a military coup that placed General Pinochet’s ghastly regime in office. The dictatorship then installed the Chicago Boys—economists trained at the University of Chicago—to reshape Chile’s economy. Consider the economic destruction, the torture and kidnappings, and multiply the numbers killed by 25 to yield per capita equivalents, and you will see just how much more devastating the first 9/11 was.
Privilege yields opportunity, and opportunity confers responsibilities.
The goal of the overthrow, in the words of the Nixon administration, was to kill the “virus” that might encourage all those “foreigners [who] are out to screw us”—screw us by trying to take over their own resources and more generally to pursue a policy of independent development along lines disliked by Washington. In the background was the conclusion of Nixon’s National Security Council that if the United States could not control Latin America, it could not expect “to achieve a successful order elsewhere in the world.” Washington’s “credibility” would be undermined, as Henry Kissinger put it.
The first 9/11, unlike the second, did not change the world. It was “nothing of very great consequence,” Kissinger assured his boss a few days later. And judging by how it figures in conventional history, his words can hardly be faulted, though the survivors may see the matter differently.
These events of little consequence were not limited to the military coup that destroyed Chilean democracy and set in motion the horror story that followed. As already discussed, the first 9/11 was just one act in the drama that began in 1962 when Kennedy shifted the mission of the Latin American militaries to “internal security.” The shattering aftermath is also of little consequence, the familiar pattern when history is guarded by responsible intellectuals.
It seems to be close to a historical universal that conformist intellectuals, the ones who support official aims and ignore or rationalize official crimes, are honored and privileged in their own societies, and the value-oriented punished in one or another way. The pattern goes back to the earliest records. It was the man accused of corrupting the youth of Athens who drank the hemlock, much as Dreyfusards were accused of “corrupting souls, and, in due course, society as a whole” and the value-oriented intellectuals of the 1960s were charged with interference with “indoctrination of the young.”
In the Hebrew scriptures there are figures who by contemporary standards are dissident intellectuals, called “prophets” in the English translation. They bitterly angered the establishment with their critical geopolitical analysis, their condemnation of the crimes of the powerful, their calls for justice and concern for the poor and suffering. King Ahab, the most evil of the kings, denounced the Prophet Elijah as a hater of Israel, the first “self-hating Jew” or “anti-American” in the modern counterparts. The prophets were treated harshly, unlike the flatterers at the court, who were later condemned as false prophets. The pattern is understandable. It would be surprising if it were otherwise.
As for the responsibility of intellectuals, there does not seem to me to be much to say beyond some simple truths. Intellectuals are typically privileged—merely an observation about usage of the term. Privilege yields opportunity, and opportunity confers responsibilities. An individual then has choices.
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Thursday, September 08, 2011
Wednesday, September 07, 2011
Noam Chomsky:9/11 and the Imperial Mentality, Looking Back on 9/11 a Decade Later
We are approaching the 10th anniversary of the horrendous atrocities of September 11, 2001, which, it is commonly held, changed the world. On May 1st, the presumed mastermind of the crime, Osama bin Laden, was assassinated in Pakistan by a team of elite US commandos, Navy SEALs, after he was captured, unarmed and undefended, in Operation Geronimo.
A number of analysts have observed that although bin Laden was finally killed, he won some major successes in his war against the U.S. "He repeatedly asserted that the only way to drive the U.S. from the Muslim world and defeat its satraps was by drawing Americans into a series of small but expensive wars that would ultimately bankrupt them," Eric Margolis writes. "'Bleeding the U.S.,' in his words." The United States, first under George W. Bush and then Barack Obama, rushed right into bin Laden’s trap... Grotesquely overblown military outlays and debt addiction... may be the most pernicious legacy of the man who thought he could defeat the United States” -- particularly when the debt is being cynically exploited by the far right, with the collusion of the Democrat establishment, to undermine what remains of social programs, public education, unions, and, in general, remaining barriers to corporate tyranny.
That Washington was bent on fulfilling bin Laden’s fervent wishes was evident at once. As discussed in my book 9-11, written shortly after those attacks occurred, anyone with knowledge of the region could recognize “that a massive assault on a Muslim population would be the answer to the prayers of bin Laden and his associates, and would lead the U.S. and its allies into a ‘diabolical trap,’ as the French foreign minister put it.”
The senior CIA analyst responsible for tracking Osama bin Laden from 1996, Michael Scheuer, wrote shortly after that “bin Laden has been precise in telling America the reasons he is waging war on us. [He] is out to drastically alter U.S. and Western policies toward the Islamic world,” and largely succeeded: “U.S. forces and policies are completing the radicalization of the Islamic world, something Osama bin Laden has been trying to do with substantial but incomplete success since the early 1990s. As a result, I think it is fair to conclude that the United States of America remains bin Laden’s only indispensable ally.” And arguably remains so, even after his death.
The First 9/11
Was there an alternative? There is every likelihood that the Jihadi movement, much of it highly critical of bin Laden, could have been split and undermined after 9/11. The “crime against humanity,” as it was rightly called, could have been approached as a crime, with an international operation to apprehend the likely suspects. That was recognized at the time, but no such idea was even considered.
In 9-11, I quoted Robert Fisk’s conclusion that the “horrendous crime” of 9/11 was committed with “wickedness and awesome cruelty,” an accurate judgment. It is useful to bear in mind that the crimes could have been even worse. Suppose, for example, that the attack had gone as far as bombing the White House, killing the president, imposing a brutal military dictatorship that killed thousands and tortured tens of thousands while establishing an international terror center that helped impose similar torture-and-terror states elsewhere and carried out an international assassination campaign; and as an extra fillip, brought in a team of economists -- call them “the Kandahar boys” -- who quickly drove the economy into one of the worst depressions in its history. That, plainly, would have been a lot worse than 9/11.
Unfortunately, it is not a thought experiment. It happened. The only inaccuracy in this brief account is that the numbers should be multiplied by 25 to yield per capita equivalents, the appropriate measure. I am, of course, referring to what in Latin America is often called “the first 9/11”: September 11, 1973, when the U.S. succeeded in its intensive efforts to overthrow the democratic government of Salvador Allende in Chile with a military coup that placed General Pinochet’s brutal regime in office. The goal, in the words of the Nixon administration, was to kill the “virus” that might encourage all those “foreigners [who] are out to screw us” to take over their own resources and in other ways to pursue an intolerable policy of independent development. In the background was the conclusion of the National Security Council that, if the US could not control Latin America, it could not expect “to achieve a successful order elsewhere in the world.”
The first 9/11, unlike the second, did not change the world. It was “nothing of very great consequence,” as Henry Kissinger assured his boss a few days later.
These events of little consequence were not limited to the military coup that destroyed Chilean democracy and set in motion the horror story that followed. The first 9/11 was just one act in a drama which began in 1962, when John F. Kennedy shifted the mission of the Latin American military from “hemispheric defense” -- an anachronistic holdover from World War II -- to “internal security,” a concept with a chilling interpretation in U.S.-dominated Latin American circles.
In the recently published Cambridge University History of the Cold War, Latin American scholar John Coatsworth writes that from that time to “the Soviet collapse in 1990, the numbers of political prisoners, torture victims, and executions of non-violent political dissenters in Latin America vastly exceeded those in the Soviet Union and its East European satellites,” including many religious martyrs and mass slaughter as well, always supported or initiated in Washington. The last major violent act was the brutal murder of six leading Latin American intellectuals, Jesuit priests, a few days after the Berlin Wall fell. The perpetrators were an elite Salvadorean battalion, which had already left a shocking trail of blood, fresh from renewed training at the JFK School of Special Warfare, acting on direct orders of the high command of the U.S. client state.
The consequences of this hemispheric plague still, of course, reverberate.
From Kidnapping and Torture to Assassination
All of this, and much more like it, is dismissed as of little consequence, and forgotten. Those whose mission is to rule the world enjoy a more comforting picture, articulated well enough in the current issue of the prestigious (and valuable) journal of the Royal Institute of International Affairs in London. The lead article discusses “the visionary international order” of the “second half of the twentieth century” marked by “the universalization of an American vision of commercial prosperity.” There is something to that account, but it does not quite convey the perception of those at the wrong end of the guns.
The same is true of the assassination of Osama bin Laden, which brings to an end at least a phase in the “war on terror” re-declared by President George W. Bush on the second 9/11. Let us turn to a few thoughts on that event and its significance.
On May 1, 2011, Osama bin Laden was killed in his virtually unprotected compound by a raiding mission of 79 Navy SEALs, who entered Pakistan by helicopter. After many lurid stories were provided by the government and withdrawn, official reports made it increasingly clear that the operation was a planned assassination, multiply violating elementary norms of international law, beginning with the invasion itself.
There appears to have been no attempt to apprehend the unarmed victim, as presumably could have been done by 79 commandos facing no opposition -- except, they report, from his wife, also unarmed, whom they shot in self-defense when she “lunged” at them, according to the White House.
A plausible reconstruction of the events is provided by veteran Middle East correspondent Yochi Dreazen and colleagues in the Atlantic. Dreazen, formerly the military correspondent for the Wall Street Journal, is senior correspondent for the National Journal Group covering military affairs and national security. According to their investigation, White House planning appears not to have considered the option of capturing bin Laden alive: “The administration had made clear to the military's clandestine Joint Special Operations Command that it wanted bin Laden dead, according to a senior U.S. official with knowledge of the discussions. A high-ranking military officer briefed on the assault said the SEALs knew their mission was not to take him alive.”
The authors add: “For many at the Pentagon and the Central Intelligence Agency who had spent nearly a decade hunting bin Laden, killing the militant was a necessary and justified act of vengeance.” Furthermore, “capturing bin Laden alive would have also presented the administration with an array of nettlesome legal and political challenges.” Better, then, to assassinate him, dumping his body into the sea without the autopsy considered essential after a killing -- an act that predictably provoked both anger and skepticism in much of the Muslim world.
As the Atlantic inquiry observes, “The decision to kill bin Laden outright was the clearest illustration to date of a little-noticed aspect of the Obama administration's counterterror policy. The Bush administration captured thousands of suspected militants and sent them to detention camps in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Guantanamo Bay. The Obama administration, by contrast, has focused on eliminating individual terrorists rather than attempting to take them alive.” That is one significant difference between Bush and Obama. The authors quote former West German Chancellor Helmut Schmidt, who “told German TV that the U.S. raid was ‘quite clearly a violation of international law’ and that bin Laden should have been detained and put on trial,” contrasting Schmidt with U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, who “defended the decision to kill bin Laden although he didn't pose an immediate threat to the Navy SEALs, telling a House panel... that the assault had been ‘lawful, legitimate and appropriate in every way.’"
The disposal of the body without autopsy was also criticized by allies. The highly regarded British barrister Geoffrey Robertson, who supported the intervention and opposed the execution largely on pragmatic grounds, nevertheless described Obama’s claim that “justice was done” as an “absurdity” that should have been obvious to a former professor of constitutional law. Pakistan law “requires a colonial inquest on violent death, and international human rights law insists that the ‘right to life’ mandates an inquiry whenever violent death occurs from government or police action. The U.S. is therefore under a duty to hold an inquiry that will satisfy the world as to the true circumstances of this killing.”
Robertson usefully reminds us that “[i]t was not always thus. When the time came to consider the fate of men much more steeped in wickedness than Osama bin Laden -- the Nazi leadership -- the British government wanted them hanged within six hours of capture. President Truman demurred, citing the conclusion of Justice Robert Jackson that summary execution ‘would not sit easily on the American conscience or be remembered by our children with pride... the only course is to determine the innocence or guilt of the accused after a hearing as dispassionate as the times will permit and upon a record that will leave our reasons and motives clear.’”
Eric Margolis comments that “Washington has never made public the evidence of its claim that Osama bin Laden was behind the 9/11 attacks,” presumably one reason why “polls show that fully a third of American respondents believe that the U.S. government and/or Israel were behind 9/11,” while in the Muslim world skepticism is much higher. “An open trial in the U.S. or at the Hague would have exposed these claims to the light of day,” he continues, a practical reason why Washington should have followed the law.
In societies that profess some respect for law, suspects are apprehended and brought to fair trial. I stress “suspects.” In June 2002, FBI head Robert Mueller, in what the Washington Post described as “among his most detailed public comments on the origins of the attacks,” could say only that “investigators believe the idea of the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon came from al Qaeda leaders in Afghanistan, the actual plotting was done in Germany, and the financing came through the United Arab Emirates from sources in Afghanistan.”
What the FBI believed and thought in June 2002 they didn’t know eight months earlier, when Washington dismissed tentative offers by the Taliban (how serious, we do not know) to permit a trial of bin Laden if they were presented with evidence. Thus, it is not true, as President Obama claimed in his White House statement after bin Laden’s death, that “[w]e quickly learned that the 9/11 attacks were carried out by al-Qaeda.”
There has never been any reason to doubt what the FBI believed in mid-2002, but that leaves us far from the proof of guilt required in civilized societies -- and whatever the evidence might be, it does not warrant murdering a suspect who could, it seems, have been easily apprehended and brought to trial. Much the same is true of evidence provided since. Thus, the 9/11 Commission provided extensive circumstantial evidence of bin Laden’s role in 9/11, based primarily on what it had been told about confessions by prisoners in Guantanamo. It is doubtful that much of that would hold up in an independent court, considering the ways confessions were elicited. But in any event, the conclusions of a congressionally authorized investigation, however convincing one finds them, plainly fall short of a sentence by a credible court, which is what shifts the category of the accused from suspect to convicted.
There is much talk of bin Laden's “confession,” but that was a boast, not a confession, with as much credibility as my “confession” that I won the Boston marathon. The boast tells us a lot about his character, but nothing about his responsibility for what he regarded as a great achievement, for which he wanted to take credit.
Again, all of this is, transparently, quite independent of one’s judgments about his responsibility, which seemed clear immediately, even before the FBI inquiry, and still does.
Crimes of Aggression
It is worth adding that bin Laden’s responsibility was recognized in much of the Muslim world, and condemned. One significant example is the distinguished Lebanese cleric Sheikh Fadlallah, greatly respected by Hizbollah and Shia groups generally, outside Lebanon as well. He had some experience with assassinations. He had been targeted for assassination: by a truck bomb outside a mosque, in a CIA-organized operation in 1985. He escaped, but 80 others were killed, mostly women and girls as they left the mosque -- one of those innumerable crimes that do not enter the annals of terror because of the fallacy of “wrong agency.” Sheikh Fadlallah sharply condemned the 9/11 attacks.
One of the leading specialists on the Jihadi movement, Fawaz Gerges, suggests that the movement might have been split at that time had the U.S. exploited the opportunity instead of mobilizing the movement, particularly by the attack on Iraq, a great boon to bin Laden, which led to a sharp increase in terror, as intelligence agencies had anticipated. At the Chilcot hearings investigating the background to the invasion of Iraq, for example, the former head of Britain’s domestic intelligence agency MI5 testified that both British and U.S. intelligence were aware that Saddam posed no serious threat, that the invasion was likely to increase terror, and that the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan had radicalized parts of a generation of Muslims who saw the military actions as an “attack on Islam.” As is often the case, security was not a high priority for state action.
It might be instructive to ask ourselves how we would be reacting if Iraqi commandos had landed at George W. Bush's compound, assassinated him, and dumped his body in the Atlantic (after proper burial rites, of course). Uncontroversially, he was not a “suspect” but the “decider” who gave the orders to invade Iraq -- that is, to commit the “supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole” for which Nazi criminals were hanged: the hundreds of thousands of deaths, millions of refugees, destruction of much of the country and its national heritage, and the murderous sectarian conflict that has now spread to the rest of the region. Equally uncontroversially, these crimes vastly exceed anything attributed to bin Laden.
To say that all of this is uncontroversial, as it is, is not to imply that it is not denied. The existence of flat earthers does not change the fact that, uncontroversially, the earth is not flat. Similarly, it is uncontroversial that Stalin and Hitler were responsible for horrendous crimes, though loyalists deny it. All of this should, again, be too obvious for comment, and would be, except in an atmosphere of hysteria so extreme that it blocks rational thought.
Similarly, it is uncontroversial that Bush and associates did commit the “supreme international crime” -- the crime of aggression. That crime was defined clearly enough by Justice Robert Jackson, Chief of Counsel for the United States at Nuremberg. An “aggressor,” Jackson proposed to the Tribunal in his opening statement, is a state that is the first to commit such actions as “[i]nvasion of its armed forces, with or without a declaration of war, of the territory of another State ….” No one, even the most extreme supporter of the aggression, denies that Bush and associates did just that.
We might also do well to recall Jackson’s eloquent words at Nuremberg on the principle of universality: “If certain acts in violation of treaties are crimes, they are crimes whether the United States does them or whether Germany does them, and we are not prepared to lay down a rule of criminal conduct against others which we would not be willing to have invoked against us.”
It is also clear that announced intentions are irrelevant, even if they are truly believed. Internal records reveal that Japanese fascists apparently did believe that, by ravaging China, they were laboring to turn it into an “earthly paradise.” And although it may be difficult to imagine, it is conceivable that Bush and company believed they were protecting the world from destruction by Saddam’s nuclear weapons. All irrelevant, though ardent loyalists on all sides may try to convince themselves otherwise.
We are left with two choices: either Bush and associates are guilty of the “supreme international crime” including all the evils that follow, or else we declare that the Nuremberg proceedings were a farce and the allies were guilty of judicial murder.
The Imperial Mentality and 9/11
A few days before the bin Laden assassination, Orlando Bosch died peacefully in Florida, where he resided along with his accomplice Luis Posada Carriles and many other associates in international terrorism. After he was accused of dozens of terrorist crimes by the FBI, Bosch was granted a presidential pardon by Bush I over the objections of the Justice Department, which found the conclusion “inescapable that it would be prejudicial to the public interest for the United States to provide a safe haven for Bosch.” The coincidence of these deaths at once calls to mind the Bush II doctrine -- “already… a de facto rule of international relations,” according to the noted Harvard international relations specialist Graham Allison -- which revokes “the sovereignty of states that provide sanctuary to terrorists.”
Allison refers to the pronouncement of Bush II, directed at the Taliban, that “those who harbor terrorists are as guilty as the terrorists themselves.” Such states, therefore, have lost their sovereignty and are fit targets for bombing and terror -- for example, the state that harbored Bosch and his associate. When Bush issued this new “de facto rule of international relations,” no one seemed to notice that he was calling for invasion and destruction of the U.S. and the murder of its criminal presidents.
None of this is problematic, of course, if we reject Justice Jackson’s principle of universality, and adopt instead the principle that the U.S. is self-immunized against international law and conventions -- as, in fact, the government has frequently made very clear.
It is also worth thinking about the name given to the bin Laden operation: Operation Geronimo. The imperial mentality is so profound that few seem able to perceive that the White House is glorifying bin Laden by calling him “Geronimo” -- the Apache Indian chief who led the courageous resistance to the invaders of Apache lands.
The casual choice of the name is reminiscent of the ease with which we name our murder weapons after victims of our crimes: Apache, Blackhawk… We might react differently if the Luftwaffe had called its fighter planes “Jew” and “Gypsy.”
The examples mentioned would fall under the category of “American exceptionalism,” were it not for the fact that easy suppression of one’s own crimes is virtually ubiquitous among powerful states, at least those that are not defeated and forced to acknowledge reality.
Perhaps the assassination was perceived by the administration as an “act of vengeance,” as Robertson concludes. And perhaps the rejection of the legal option of a trial reflects a difference between the moral culture of 1945 and today, as he suggests. Whatever the motive was, it could hardly have been security. As in the case of the “supreme international crime” in Iraq, the bin Laden assassination is another illustration of the important fact that security is often not a high priority for state action, contrary to received doctrine.
Noam Chomsky is Institute Professor (retired) at MIT. He is the author of many books and articles on international affairs and social-political issues, and a long-time participant in activist movements. His most recent books include: 9-11: 10th Anniversary Edition, Failed States, What We Say Goes (with David Barsamian), Hegemony or Survival, and the Essential Chomsky.
Published on Tuesday, September 6, 2011 by TomDispatch.com
A number of analysts have observed that although bin Laden was finally killed, he won some major successes in his war against the U.S. "He repeatedly asserted that the only way to drive the U.S. from the Muslim world and defeat its satraps was by drawing Americans into a series of small but expensive wars that would ultimately bankrupt them," Eric Margolis writes. "'Bleeding the U.S.,' in his words." The United States, first under George W. Bush and then Barack Obama, rushed right into bin Laden’s trap... Grotesquely overblown military outlays and debt addiction... may be the most pernicious legacy of the man who thought he could defeat the United States” -- particularly when the debt is being cynically exploited by the far right, with the collusion of the Democrat establishment, to undermine what remains of social programs, public education, unions, and, in general, remaining barriers to corporate tyranny.
That Washington was bent on fulfilling bin Laden’s fervent wishes was evident at once. As discussed in my book 9-11, written shortly after those attacks occurred, anyone with knowledge of the region could recognize “that a massive assault on a Muslim population would be the answer to the prayers of bin Laden and his associates, and would lead the U.S. and its allies into a ‘diabolical trap,’ as the French foreign minister put it.”
The senior CIA analyst responsible for tracking Osama bin Laden from 1996, Michael Scheuer, wrote shortly after that “bin Laden has been precise in telling America the reasons he is waging war on us. [He] is out to drastically alter U.S. and Western policies toward the Islamic world,” and largely succeeded: “U.S. forces and policies are completing the radicalization of the Islamic world, something Osama bin Laden has been trying to do with substantial but incomplete success since the early 1990s. As a result, I think it is fair to conclude that the United States of America remains bin Laden’s only indispensable ally.” And arguably remains so, even after his death.
The First 9/11
Was there an alternative? There is every likelihood that the Jihadi movement, much of it highly critical of bin Laden, could have been split and undermined after 9/11. The “crime against humanity,” as it was rightly called, could have been approached as a crime, with an international operation to apprehend the likely suspects. That was recognized at the time, but no such idea was even considered.
In 9-11, I quoted Robert Fisk’s conclusion that the “horrendous crime” of 9/11 was committed with “wickedness and awesome cruelty,” an accurate judgment. It is useful to bear in mind that the crimes could have been even worse. Suppose, for example, that the attack had gone as far as bombing the White House, killing the president, imposing a brutal military dictatorship that killed thousands and tortured tens of thousands while establishing an international terror center that helped impose similar torture-and-terror states elsewhere and carried out an international assassination campaign; and as an extra fillip, brought in a team of economists -- call them “the Kandahar boys” -- who quickly drove the economy into one of the worst depressions in its history. That, plainly, would have been a lot worse than 9/11.
Unfortunately, it is not a thought experiment. It happened. The only inaccuracy in this brief account is that the numbers should be multiplied by 25 to yield per capita equivalents, the appropriate measure. I am, of course, referring to what in Latin America is often called “the first 9/11”: September 11, 1973, when the U.S. succeeded in its intensive efforts to overthrow the democratic government of Salvador Allende in Chile with a military coup that placed General Pinochet’s brutal regime in office. The goal, in the words of the Nixon administration, was to kill the “virus” that might encourage all those “foreigners [who] are out to screw us” to take over their own resources and in other ways to pursue an intolerable policy of independent development. In the background was the conclusion of the National Security Council that, if the US could not control Latin America, it could not expect “to achieve a successful order elsewhere in the world.”
The first 9/11, unlike the second, did not change the world. It was “nothing of very great consequence,” as Henry Kissinger assured his boss a few days later.
These events of little consequence were not limited to the military coup that destroyed Chilean democracy and set in motion the horror story that followed. The first 9/11 was just one act in a drama which began in 1962, when John F. Kennedy shifted the mission of the Latin American military from “hemispheric defense” -- an anachronistic holdover from World War II -- to “internal security,” a concept with a chilling interpretation in U.S.-dominated Latin American circles.
In the recently published Cambridge University History of the Cold War, Latin American scholar John Coatsworth writes that from that time to “the Soviet collapse in 1990, the numbers of political prisoners, torture victims, and executions of non-violent political dissenters in Latin America vastly exceeded those in the Soviet Union and its East European satellites,” including many religious martyrs and mass slaughter as well, always supported or initiated in Washington. The last major violent act was the brutal murder of six leading Latin American intellectuals, Jesuit priests, a few days after the Berlin Wall fell. The perpetrators were an elite Salvadorean battalion, which had already left a shocking trail of blood, fresh from renewed training at the JFK School of Special Warfare, acting on direct orders of the high command of the U.S. client state.
The consequences of this hemispheric plague still, of course, reverberate.
From Kidnapping and Torture to Assassination
All of this, and much more like it, is dismissed as of little consequence, and forgotten. Those whose mission is to rule the world enjoy a more comforting picture, articulated well enough in the current issue of the prestigious (and valuable) journal of the Royal Institute of International Affairs in London. The lead article discusses “the visionary international order” of the “second half of the twentieth century” marked by “the universalization of an American vision of commercial prosperity.” There is something to that account, but it does not quite convey the perception of those at the wrong end of the guns.
The same is true of the assassination of Osama bin Laden, which brings to an end at least a phase in the “war on terror” re-declared by President George W. Bush on the second 9/11. Let us turn to a few thoughts on that event and its significance.
On May 1, 2011, Osama bin Laden was killed in his virtually unprotected compound by a raiding mission of 79 Navy SEALs, who entered Pakistan by helicopter. After many lurid stories were provided by the government and withdrawn, official reports made it increasingly clear that the operation was a planned assassination, multiply violating elementary norms of international law, beginning with the invasion itself.
There appears to have been no attempt to apprehend the unarmed victim, as presumably could have been done by 79 commandos facing no opposition -- except, they report, from his wife, also unarmed, whom they shot in self-defense when she “lunged” at them, according to the White House.
A plausible reconstruction of the events is provided by veteran Middle East correspondent Yochi Dreazen and colleagues in the Atlantic. Dreazen, formerly the military correspondent for the Wall Street Journal, is senior correspondent for the National Journal Group covering military affairs and national security. According to their investigation, White House planning appears not to have considered the option of capturing bin Laden alive: “The administration had made clear to the military's clandestine Joint Special Operations Command that it wanted bin Laden dead, according to a senior U.S. official with knowledge of the discussions. A high-ranking military officer briefed on the assault said the SEALs knew their mission was not to take him alive.”
The authors add: “For many at the Pentagon and the Central Intelligence Agency who had spent nearly a decade hunting bin Laden, killing the militant was a necessary and justified act of vengeance.” Furthermore, “capturing bin Laden alive would have also presented the administration with an array of nettlesome legal and political challenges.” Better, then, to assassinate him, dumping his body into the sea without the autopsy considered essential after a killing -- an act that predictably provoked both anger and skepticism in much of the Muslim world.
As the Atlantic inquiry observes, “The decision to kill bin Laden outright was the clearest illustration to date of a little-noticed aspect of the Obama administration's counterterror policy. The Bush administration captured thousands of suspected militants and sent them to detention camps in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Guantanamo Bay. The Obama administration, by contrast, has focused on eliminating individual terrorists rather than attempting to take them alive.” That is one significant difference between Bush and Obama. The authors quote former West German Chancellor Helmut Schmidt, who “told German TV that the U.S. raid was ‘quite clearly a violation of international law’ and that bin Laden should have been detained and put on trial,” contrasting Schmidt with U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, who “defended the decision to kill bin Laden although he didn't pose an immediate threat to the Navy SEALs, telling a House panel... that the assault had been ‘lawful, legitimate and appropriate in every way.’"
The disposal of the body without autopsy was also criticized by allies. The highly regarded British barrister Geoffrey Robertson, who supported the intervention and opposed the execution largely on pragmatic grounds, nevertheless described Obama’s claim that “justice was done” as an “absurdity” that should have been obvious to a former professor of constitutional law. Pakistan law “requires a colonial inquest on violent death, and international human rights law insists that the ‘right to life’ mandates an inquiry whenever violent death occurs from government or police action. The U.S. is therefore under a duty to hold an inquiry that will satisfy the world as to the true circumstances of this killing.”
Robertson usefully reminds us that “[i]t was not always thus. When the time came to consider the fate of men much more steeped in wickedness than Osama bin Laden -- the Nazi leadership -- the British government wanted them hanged within six hours of capture. President Truman demurred, citing the conclusion of Justice Robert Jackson that summary execution ‘would not sit easily on the American conscience or be remembered by our children with pride... the only course is to determine the innocence or guilt of the accused after a hearing as dispassionate as the times will permit and upon a record that will leave our reasons and motives clear.’”
Eric Margolis comments that “Washington has never made public the evidence of its claim that Osama bin Laden was behind the 9/11 attacks,” presumably one reason why “polls show that fully a third of American respondents believe that the U.S. government and/or Israel were behind 9/11,” while in the Muslim world skepticism is much higher. “An open trial in the U.S. or at the Hague would have exposed these claims to the light of day,” he continues, a practical reason why Washington should have followed the law.
In societies that profess some respect for law, suspects are apprehended and brought to fair trial. I stress “suspects.” In June 2002, FBI head Robert Mueller, in what the Washington Post described as “among his most detailed public comments on the origins of the attacks,” could say only that “investigators believe the idea of the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon came from al Qaeda leaders in Afghanistan, the actual plotting was done in Germany, and the financing came through the United Arab Emirates from sources in Afghanistan.”
What the FBI believed and thought in June 2002 they didn’t know eight months earlier, when Washington dismissed tentative offers by the Taliban (how serious, we do not know) to permit a trial of bin Laden if they were presented with evidence. Thus, it is not true, as President Obama claimed in his White House statement after bin Laden’s death, that “[w]e quickly learned that the 9/11 attacks were carried out by al-Qaeda.”
There has never been any reason to doubt what the FBI believed in mid-2002, but that leaves us far from the proof of guilt required in civilized societies -- and whatever the evidence might be, it does not warrant murdering a suspect who could, it seems, have been easily apprehended and brought to trial. Much the same is true of evidence provided since. Thus, the 9/11 Commission provided extensive circumstantial evidence of bin Laden’s role in 9/11, based primarily on what it had been told about confessions by prisoners in Guantanamo. It is doubtful that much of that would hold up in an independent court, considering the ways confessions were elicited. But in any event, the conclusions of a congressionally authorized investigation, however convincing one finds them, plainly fall short of a sentence by a credible court, which is what shifts the category of the accused from suspect to convicted.
There is much talk of bin Laden's “confession,” but that was a boast, not a confession, with as much credibility as my “confession” that I won the Boston marathon. The boast tells us a lot about his character, but nothing about his responsibility for what he regarded as a great achievement, for which he wanted to take credit.
Again, all of this is, transparently, quite independent of one’s judgments about his responsibility, which seemed clear immediately, even before the FBI inquiry, and still does.
Crimes of Aggression
It is worth adding that bin Laden’s responsibility was recognized in much of the Muslim world, and condemned. One significant example is the distinguished Lebanese cleric Sheikh Fadlallah, greatly respected by Hizbollah and Shia groups generally, outside Lebanon as well. He had some experience with assassinations. He had been targeted for assassination: by a truck bomb outside a mosque, in a CIA-organized operation in 1985. He escaped, but 80 others were killed, mostly women and girls as they left the mosque -- one of those innumerable crimes that do not enter the annals of terror because of the fallacy of “wrong agency.” Sheikh Fadlallah sharply condemned the 9/11 attacks.
One of the leading specialists on the Jihadi movement, Fawaz Gerges, suggests that the movement might have been split at that time had the U.S. exploited the opportunity instead of mobilizing the movement, particularly by the attack on Iraq, a great boon to bin Laden, which led to a sharp increase in terror, as intelligence agencies had anticipated. At the Chilcot hearings investigating the background to the invasion of Iraq, for example, the former head of Britain’s domestic intelligence agency MI5 testified that both British and U.S. intelligence were aware that Saddam posed no serious threat, that the invasion was likely to increase terror, and that the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan had radicalized parts of a generation of Muslims who saw the military actions as an “attack on Islam.” As is often the case, security was not a high priority for state action.
It might be instructive to ask ourselves how we would be reacting if Iraqi commandos had landed at George W. Bush's compound, assassinated him, and dumped his body in the Atlantic (after proper burial rites, of course). Uncontroversially, he was not a “suspect” but the “decider” who gave the orders to invade Iraq -- that is, to commit the “supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole” for which Nazi criminals were hanged: the hundreds of thousands of deaths, millions of refugees, destruction of much of the country and its national heritage, and the murderous sectarian conflict that has now spread to the rest of the region. Equally uncontroversially, these crimes vastly exceed anything attributed to bin Laden.
To say that all of this is uncontroversial, as it is, is not to imply that it is not denied. The existence of flat earthers does not change the fact that, uncontroversially, the earth is not flat. Similarly, it is uncontroversial that Stalin and Hitler were responsible for horrendous crimes, though loyalists deny it. All of this should, again, be too obvious for comment, and would be, except in an atmosphere of hysteria so extreme that it blocks rational thought.
Similarly, it is uncontroversial that Bush and associates did commit the “supreme international crime” -- the crime of aggression. That crime was defined clearly enough by Justice Robert Jackson, Chief of Counsel for the United States at Nuremberg. An “aggressor,” Jackson proposed to the Tribunal in his opening statement, is a state that is the first to commit such actions as “[i]nvasion of its armed forces, with or without a declaration of war, of the territory of another State ….” No one, even the most extreme supporter of the aggression, denies that Bush and associates did just that.
We might also do well to recall Jackson’s eloquent words at Nuremberg on the principle of universality: “If certain acts in violation of treaties are crimes, they are crimes whether the United States does them or whether Germany does them, and we are not prepared to lay down a rule of criminal conduct against others which we would not be willing to have invoked against us.”
It is also clear that announced intentions are irrelevant, even if they are truly believed. Internal records reveal that Japanese fascists apparently did believe that, by ravaging China, they were laboring to turn it into an “earthly paradise.” And although it may be difficult to imagine, it is conceivable that Bush and company believed they were protecting the world from destruction by Saddam’s nuclear weapons. All irrelevant, though ardent loyalists on all sides may try to convince themselves otherwise.
We are left with two choices: either Bush and associates are guilty of the “supreme international crime” including all the evils that follow, or else we declare that the Nuremberg proceedings were a farce and the allies were guilty of judicial murder.
The Imperial Mentality and 9/11
A few days before the bin Laden assassination, Orlando Bosch died peacefully in Florida, where he resided along with his accomplice Luis Posada Carriles and many other associates in international terrorism. After he was accused of dozens of terrorist crimes by the FBI, Bosch was granted a presidential pardon by Bush I over the objections of the Justice Department, which found the conclusion “inescapable that it would be prejudicial to the public interest for the United States to provide a safe haven for Bosch.” The coincidence of these deaths at once calls to mind the Bush II doctrine -- “already… a de facto rule of international relations,” according to the noted Harvard international relations specialist Graham Allison -- which revokes “the sovereignty of states that provide sanctuary to terrorists.”
Allison refers to the pronouncement of Bush II, directed at the Taliban, that “those who harbor terrorists are as guilty as the terrorists themselves.” Such states, therefore, have lost their sovereignty and are fit targets for bombing and terror -- for example, the state that harbored Bosch and his associate. When Bush issued this new “de facto rule of international relations,” no one seemed to notice that he was calling for invasion and destruction of the U.S. and the murder of its criminal presidents.
None of this is problematic, of course, if we reject Justice Jackson’s principle of universality, and adopt instead the principle that the U.S. is self-immunized against international law and conventions -- as, in fact, the government has frequently made very clear.
It is also worth thinking about the name given to the bin Laden operation: Operation Geronimo. The imperial mentality is so profound that few seem able to perceive that the White House is glorifying bin Laden by calling him “Geronimo” -- the Apache Indian chief who led the courageous resistance to the invaders of Apache lands.
The casual choice of the name is reminiscent of the ease with which we name our murder weapons after victims of our crimes: Apache, Blackhawk… We might react differently if the Luftwaffe had called its fighter planes “Jew” and “Gypsy.”
The examples mentioned would fall under the category of “American exceptionalism,” were it not for the fact that easy suppression of one’s own crimes is virtually ubiquitous among powerful states, at least those that are not defeated and forced to acknowledge reality.
Perhaps the assassination was perceived by the administration as an “act of vengeance,” as Robertson concludes. And perhaps the rejection of the legal option of a trial reflects a difference between the moral culture of 1945 and today, as he suggests. Whatever the motive was, it could hardly have been security. As in the case of the “supreme international crime” in Iraq, the bin Laden assassination is another illustration of the important fact that security is often not a high priority for state action, contrary to received doctrine.
Noam Chomsky is Institute Professor (retired) at MIT. He is the author of many books and articles on international affairs and social-political issues, and a long-time participant in activist movements. His most recent books include: 9-11: 10th Anniversary Edition, Failed States, What We Say Goes (with David Barsamian), Hegemony or Survival, and the Essential Chomsky.
Published on Tuesday, September 6, 2011 by TomDispatch.com
Friday, April 22, 2011
John Pilger Q&A Transcript: embedded journalism, Murdoch press, Israel-Palestine, WikiLeaks
John Pilger addressed a sold-out crowd of over 400 people in Sydney at a special screening of his new documentary, The War You Don’t See. Following the screening Pilger answered questions on the Australian and international media, relationships between corporations or governments and our media, embedded journalism, Israel-Palestine media coverage (including the current campaign against Marrickville BDS supporters), WikiLeaks and much more.
Below is a rush transcript of the Q&A session with Pilger, please excuse any errors that might exist. There are a few indecipherable moments, as indicated, and questions have been paraphrased (or key concepts indicated) as it was difficult to properly hear the audience members putting questions. The videos of this Q&A will soon be available to view in full in the next 24 hours.
Pre-film Introduction from John Pilger
Thank you all for coming out in such generous numbers tonight. I would like to follow Paul and thank him and his comrades at Green Left who have done such incredible work in arranging events like this, and just doing the work they do, be it here tonight, at Marrickville council tonight. So all thanks to them.
My thanks also to SBS. I haven’t been on television in Australia for some years. SBS did an excellent job of putting this film to air, and promoting it. So my thanks go to them. It will be shown again on SBS, I don’t know when. The DVD will be available from I believe May 1st.
What I’d like to do is make this mostly a forum about the issues raised in the film. So when I come back after the film has been shown, I’ll say a few words, perhaps bring it up to date a little, but I want to give it over to you to ask me questions, and raise questions about the issues in the film, and I’d like to ask you to keep it to the issues in the film. That’s pretty wide. We are talking about media. This is why we are here tonight. We are talking about media and the way it represents and misrepresents. The way it presents and omits. This film was made about the main broadcast networks in the UK and in the US. It was originally made, like all my films, for the UK network ITV and shown in the UK in December.
But all the issues raised in this film apply here plus, there is a problem, a major problem in communications in Australia. It is the problem, the control of the media, the fact that we have such a dominant force, for example, by the Murdoch organisation in the press itself, and a like-minded dominance in much, if not most, of the rest of the media. These are issues that I think this film will translate, I hope, so although you’re seeing something that was made for, made about, UK and US, these massive corporations, particularly in the US, all apply here, and those are the issues I’d like to discuss when the film ends. I won’t talk anymore, let’s watch it and I look forward to discussing it with you.
Post-film Q&A session
QUESTION 01: How did you get the journalists in the film to talk?
[Missed start of answer]
JOHN PILGER: And two, we think of supply and demand, why do we allow them to sort of get away with this, they are supplying us. I mean first, the thing is the journalist who spoke in that, and the first journalist, whose opening credit you didn’t see, was Rageh Omaar, BBC correspondent in Iraq, he has since left the BBC. I have known him for quite a long time. Like a lot of serious-minded journalists, he was always troubled by this, troubled by the pressures on him in both crude and indirect, subtle, often, and he was more than willing to speak up about it. David Rose of The Observer – The Observer a famous liberal newspaper in Britain – played a major role with The New York Times, which refused to speak to me, by the way. But he did. In spreading the lies of weapons of mass destruction, he was conned, as he says in the film, as so many other senior journalists were. Look, I think it is a straight matter of conscious. They were troubled about it and they were more than happy to speak about it. Those were very long interviews, it’s only bits [...] it was very difficult to cut down, which we had to. I think one of the positive things that happened, there are many serious journalists that are wanting to speak out – that defensiveness that you often find in the media is starting to drop.
Why do we put up with it? Well that’s a question for you to answer, yourselves, isn’t it? The media should be an issue, that’s why it is an issue in this film and it shouldn’t be an abstract issue. There should be people in the doors of News Corporation, or Fairfax, or the ABC, or wherever, you’d be surprised at their surprise that this happened. That they suddenly become the object of complaint and protest. Now that’s one form.
My own idea, I suppose, is that we have to move on and form a public “fifth estate” in which, journalists, people in media colleges, media instructors, those who teach young journalists, and the public have to monitor and learn from what actually happens in the media. The idea of media colleges turning out young journalists to be simply fodder for Murdoch is absurd. Now I know there are real problems there because people need jobs. And in a small, smallish pond, like Australia, media pond, but with the same big sharks floating around in it, it is difficult. But that has to be debated. It has to be discussed. I did write, I have to say, to the major, I thought the major heads of media college departments, asking would they like to take part tonight – I got one reply. And there is a problem, because they are media colleges with real exceptions, honourable exceptions, have become factories, for the kinds of journalism that we don’t deserve any more.
QUESTION 02: Please don’t take this the wrong way because I’m a fan of yours. You talk about right-wing media as stenographers; would you say those in the left-wing media are stenographers also?
PILGER: This is a discussion that we have after we’ve introduced some left-wing into the media. Where is it? I am always troubled why suddenly we are into discussions about left and right, and the “left”, suddenly we are all dropped in the left, which at any given point might include Mr Rudd or Mr Brown. Look, it’s not about left and right, let’s have the left – if we didn’t have Green Left Weekly and if we didn’t have one or two other publications, there simply would be none in Australia, when you have the capital city press, 70% of them owned by Murdoch, most of the rest own owned by Fairfax. Where is this left?
We are talking about people who always – journalists, teachers, it doesn’t matter – who will always have a subjective view, but they can at the same time be truth seekers. They can do their best to find out what is going on, and the best journalism does that. It doesn’t necessarily give up its subjectivity, but it does give up any notion of distortion, or omission, or all those things that blight journalism – so it applies to all. But at the moment, because the media is a great corporate enterprise, that is known, I think fairly as a right, and they run the show. I think what most reasonable people say, well you can run certain newspapers, but we’d like to run some newspapers, and we’d like to have some television, or we’d like to be able to challenge it, to challenge you. And I try in all of my films to bring on the voices of the establishment, and to challenge, because I think there is more to be learned from the likes of the head of BBC news, Fran Unsworth [...] and the journalists you heard, out of their mouths, than out of mine. That challenge, which is a normal journalistic practice, is missing, often entirely.
QUESTION 03: Do you know why the Americans and Britain did what they did?
PILGER: Well. I think that was answered by one of the people in the film, and that was a very good witness Professor Stewart Ewen in the United States who described, for instance, the invasion of Iraq, I think rather succinctly, and he said it was about first of all oil, but not all about oil, it was about ownership of a part of the world, about taking a very important part of the world that was once described by an American president as the stupendous prize of the world.
Just touching on what you were bringing up about Libya, and it certainly is true of Iraq or [any of them], as someone once said rather dryly, if these countries were known for growing carrots we’d have no interest in them.
The short answer to your question is that rich countries have been made rich by many things, but it is one of the major elements, has been acquiring resources, like oil and minerals and a lot of the riches of the earth, that they don’t have. That has come out of, not all that long ago, empires, that now exist in a different form. I think that’s probably about the the most succinct way I can answer, very good question, thank you.
QUESTION 04: Why would Rupert Murdoch have had lunch with Julia Gillard in New York recently?
PILGER: Well that’s a standard lunch. That’s a lunch that she had to have. Rudd, before he was elected, I remember, there was a picture of him emerging from News Corps headquarters in Manhattan, he had lunch. It’s very similar to the – you have a set of picture – I remember in a previous film I used a lot of the pictures of all those Western politicians who used to go and have lunch with Saddam Hussein and sit on his couch and have their picture take and unfortunately for them they all had to appear on the front of the Baghdad newspaper with Saddam Hussein [...] but Murdoch [...] requires all those who want his so-called support to go and literally have lunch with him and more. You find all the British prime ministers of the last 15 years, American presidents, right back to Jimmy Carter, all had a kind of lunch with him. That’s their problem, but we should be aware of it.
I’m not sure we can stop Julia Gillard having lunch with Murdoch, but we should know about it. It should be analysed to us, and not having somebody simply stand up and say some bit of tom-foolerly in front of a camera and saying something about the prime minister meeting Murdoch, if they report it at all [...] and particularly why Gillard has to see Murdoch. It’s pillars of power actually leaning towards each other and we deserve the kind of analysis that we don’t get in our major newspapers.
QUESTION 05: Challenging media in Britain about 50-50 split between giving time to Israel media angle and Palestinian media angle.
PILGER: Part of the film where I question the BBC and their competitors ITV on why they allowed the Israelis to have the, to dominate the coverage of the attack on the peace flotilla. And it’s very interesting because for the first time, I am told, in public, the BBC admitted the systemic intimidation, at all levels, from reporter, producer, up to director general, by Israeli officials. The ITV editor in chief agreed, in effect, when he talked about [indecipherable] propaganda. It’s, I suppose, I think the whole issue of Palestine has moved forward in public understanding hugely over recent years, hugely. And that has been a media response to this public awareness. Australia is largely an exception to this. As we have at the moment, a Murdoch newspaper, the only national newspaper in this country, The Australian, conducting an all-out smear campaign against a couple of Greens who happen to stick their [indecipherable] apparently, and state the obvious. That the connection, and we have something like a Murdoch retainer, [...] David Penberthy, describing what they were doing as reminiscent, and I paraphrase, of Kristallnacht, this is so obscene, so profane, and this connection between criticism of Israel and accusing people of being anti-Semitic, has to end in Australia.
It’s beginning to end. It’s beginning to end in the UK, it’s beginning to end even in the United States, in much of Europe, where people are finally being able, feeling that they can talk about it. And non-violent, completely non-violent campaigns, like the Boycott, Disinvestment and Sanctions campaign, the BDS campaign, which is much more modest than the anti-Apartheid movement but based on that, and supported by the likes of Desmond Tutu, who speaking in the spirit of Nelson Mandela called Palestine the greatest moral issue of our era, are starting to discuss it. There are views on this and those views should be heard, but this thuggish intimidation of people who are simply standing up for a justice is something that is particularly striking in Australia and in the Australian media and in my view reflects the, that monopoly, that omission, censorship by omission that exists more in Australia, than practically in any other Western democracy.
QUESTION 06: You mentioned before about WikiLeaks, and I wanted to put it to you, one of the things released was Kevin Rudd saying to the States [indecipherable] to attack China, I just wonder, if [leaking] that necessarily is in Australia’s national interests, confidential conversations had that could damage our relationships, I was wondering whether or not a line should be drawn when revealing secrets that situation?
PILGER: Why do you think it is damaging?
AUDIENCE MEMBER: Um, well our relations with China.
PILGER: If it’s based on a secret conversation between Kevin Rudd and Hillary Clinton in which he says I think you should deploy force against China, doesn’t that bear down on the relationship with the country that is not party to this conversation? Isn’t this something that we in a democracy have a right to know about? Especially when Mr Rudd is saying something quite different in public. That’s, I don’t know about lines being drawn, I think the line should’ve been drawn on countries being attacked and large numbers of people being killed, and lines being drawn by those who say one thing in private and another in public. They’re our elected, meant to be, elected representatives. What Rudd said was terribly important for us to know about.
It alerts the Chinese to how the Australian government is really thinking and perhaps alerts us to the real dangers of a policy that might not be in our interest, such as calling on the world’s superpower to have a go at China. I can’t see that that is in our interest, can you?
Be assured that most of what you read and hear is what they want us to, and anything that we get, any glimpses, they are only glimpses, I can assure you. That might come through a few outed documents, give us just a glimpse of how it really works.
AUDIENCE MEMBER: are you implying that states should not have any secrets?
PILGER: No, I didn’t say that, no. States should have secrets but before they have secrets they should be accountable, those states, those governments, to us. And until they are accountable, almost on a daily basis, because that is what democracy is, until they are accountable, their secrets are their secrets, not ours. The largest number of secrets are what they know about us, the network of surveillance now [...] is so enormous, and my view is, if they can read our emails, we should read theirs.
QUESTION 07: I’m a journalism student, who you refer to as potential Murdoch fodder I’m just wondering how, with all the consolidation of the mainstream media, and less money to go around to put fewer papers out, how do you actually keep your head above water and do decent investigative journalism?
PILGER: Well it’s very difficult, how you develop skills working for organisations like that, I think it’s almost impossible and I think we’ve got to – these are truths that have got to be faced – and they are hurdles that have to be got over. I think if one is interested in independent journalism, and the two should go together, the words independent and journalism, then yes, there are some institutions you can navigate through. Some broadcast institutions of course. That’s very difficult too. I don’t believe that is true of the Murdoch press. Yes, if you are writing, concentrating on something that doesn’t really have any political place – the gardening pages – (laughter) well, that’s alright, I used to sub the gardening pages once – or if you’re a sports writer, even that, see even that is loaded, Murdoch’s ownership of so much of the people’s pleasure: sport. So I frankly can tell you I don’t think it is possible in the Murdoch press. I think it is in other institutions. But really, there are now many avenues that young journalists, new journalists can go down, they don’t remunerate very well – the net pays nothing, usually – there are school newspapers, there is Green Left, I can tell you that the former editor in chief of the Sydney Morning Herald David Bowman subscribes [to Green Left Weekly] he’s retired, but he subscribes, to find out what the hell is going on.
So if you’re interested in being an independent journalist, it is exploring all departments, it is joining up, it is risky. But that’s a decision you have to make, you have judge it. It’s particularly difficult and I sympathise – in Australia, where there are two major, in newspapers, two major employers, Murdoch and Fairfax. I think that is something that you have to ask yourself.
QUESTION 08: Can I first just say to the journalism student there that asked that question – I’ve worked in the corporate media for 15 years and Green Left Weekly for two and a half years and I’ve learnt more in those two and a half years working for Green Left Weekly than I have in 15 years working for the corporate media. My question is, many people in Sydney see the Sydney Morning Herald as a kind of benign alternative to the Murdoch press, yet when you look at the Herald’s publisher, Fairfax, its directors sit on the boards of other companies and have very specific business interests.
PILGER: Yes.
AUDIENCE MEMBER: Nick Fairfax sits on the board of JSC Sovcomflot, which ships energy products and operates oil tankers and ports…
PILGER: Yes. What is your question?
AUDIENCE MEMBER: My question to you is, how much of an influence do you think those specific business interests, those directorships, have on the kind of reporting that the Sydney Morning Herald and other papers like it, put out?
PILGER: I think they are absolutely direct. As they are on most newspapers that have very broad portfolio of backs, investors. I know this from enquiries done, into probably the most liberal paper in the world, The Guardian, in London, and they’re under the influence of their own corporate backers, or advertisers, on it. They’re there. I think it is the nature of newspapers, of any organisation, that depends on corporate backing. Business people are not there, it is not a charitable enterprise.
If you’re going to have a section called ‘Drive’ and it’s going to have all the cars and so on, they’re not going to welcome an enormous ad saying ‘you’re choking to death on the pollution in your street’ or that some of these cars have certain defects or whatever. If you go back to the famous case of Ralph Nader, who wrote a very good book called Unsafe at Any Speed, in which he blew the whistle on American auto manufacturers turning out cars that were killing people. He couldn’t get that in to newspapers for actually years, before it was finally released and in the end it had an effect and cars were recalled and changed, but it was enormous struggle.
I’m just giving that example because the advertising of motor cars, or the motor industry, is a major component, it may not be direct, it may, it’s not been said to me, when I’ve written for newspapers, that you have to, if you’re writing something about it, remember there is an ad, or something on the paper, but in the overall scheme of things, that will be taken into account. It reflects the overall tone of the newspaper. It certainly once again reflects what is left out.
QUESTION 09: Do you think it’s important for ordinary people to make our own avenues to communicate? [...]
PILGER: Yes, I think you’re doing absolutely the right way, you’re doing it yourself. [...] There is a tremendous appetite for documentaries, I know ITV, the company I make documentaries for, has these surveys constantly, people always come back, when they are asked what do they want most, it’s not reality shows, it’s not all that, it’s documentaries, they go at the top. And so you know, make documentaries, well done with what you’ve done.
QUESTION 10: Q&A, do you see it as a step forward or back?
PILGER: Well my last appearance, I’ve appeared on it twice, and both appearances have been distinguished by one fellow guest, who is apparently across the couple of years, and between times, coincidentally, no doubt, a minister called Craig Emerson, who I felt embodied all that was wrong about Australian politics. Of course almost everything he said, and I don’t want this to be personal, because he is personally very nice to me, but, avoided questions, questions were avoided.
The last Q&A I did I was plonked next to Greg Sheridan and they hoped there would be a fight between the two of us. I regretted going on, I have to say, I don’t regret many things, but I regretted that, and I won’t go on it again. I don’t think it is a step forward, I think occasionally, occasionally, when the questions come from the audience, or that wonderful time when that bloke threw a shoe at John Howard, that was worth it. But I don’t see the point otherwise. And it is being talked up now as a great vehicle for free discussion in Australia, it isn’t, it isn’t. The same old gang, media gang.
There is another thing on Sunday morning, which I’ve seen by accident I have to say, called Insiders, which is just atrocious. This is meant to be people strapping their heads – it’s laughable – there is no real discussion, there is no real information, no one has done any work.
QUESTION 11: United Stated media manipulation and propaganda, is there similar in Australia?
PILGER: There doesn’t have to be. They do it for them. That’s the point about – I mean, you’re right to suggest – there was a famous senate enquiry in the United States in the 1970′s that found that the CIA was involved in some form or another with most leading journalists.
[Camera cut out - a few seconds of this answer were missed]
[Question 11 answer continued...]
PILGER: They will do it. They won’t have the jobs if they don’t do it. That is why they are there to do it. I don’t want to in anyway minimise what you are suggesting, because Australia is absolutely overloaded with intelligence agencies. You know, we’ve got the famous UK and USA Security Act from the second world war that has allowed British intelligence, American intelligence, and our friends at ASIO and ASIS, there are so many of them with so many different basis [indecipherable] a lot of these weather bases across Australia are run for the benefit of international agencies and so on, the point is that we don’t, journalist enquiry into this doesn’t happen. Australia has been traditionally full of spooks -
AUDIENCE MEMBER: do you mean self-censorship as well?
PILGER: It goes even beyond self-censorship, I don’t think people even self-censor. I think they don’t even consider going another way, asking another question, raising it, because the legitimacy of certain questions that are made would be challenged by their own newspaper or organisation. It is so ingrained that authority, the voice from above, has legitimacy, government has legitimacy, institutions do, business does, anybody really claiming to be authority. They are first off the rank.
When I quoted earlier that survey from BBC, looking back, as I have, I’ve sat in a room looking at all these rushes and footage, and it is quite clear that no one, you know, ordinary person or unordinary person, was ever asked about whether they supported this invasion of Iraq. The occasional glimpse of a demo. And that kind of nicely marginalises anyway. So it is like mothers milk, I am afraid, it flows through media. And that is where media colleges and those who teach young journalists, they have to free themselves up, otherwise, as I mentioned, I think it is just producing fodder for organisations and keeping the penny turning around.
QUESTION 12: Regarding phrase from film, “Propaganda of Fear”, used to set agenda for war [...] could it also be used to target a faction or an individual [...] question everything we read?
PILGER: I think questioning should be part of what we do, it should be normal. And yes, propaganda is corruption. Corruption is not just having a hand in someones pocket [...] propaganda is corruption. It is denying people information on which they can make a decision to change things or not to change things. Jefferson called it the currency of free information, propaganda is something that we see as other societies [doing] we see it flowing out of the Middle East, we see it flowing out of demonized regimes [...] but propaganda is something others do.
When Edward Bernays invented the words public relations he said he did so because the journalists in the first world war gave propaganda a bad name. So he had to create what he called false realities. So it’s very subtle and Bernays of course was the nephew of Sigmund Freud so that whole, if you like, Freudian understanding of how we see things is certainly part of it, but it is much wider than that, and it is something that is in urgent need of debate in relation to the media that we get every day. Every time we get into a cab there is the radio [...] the question to ask is what are we getting out of this? Or is this information telling you the same thing over and over and over again, is it repetitive? I think the answer is yes.
QUESTION 13: You called the deaths of civilians in Iraq war crimes, what, in your view, can we do to bring those war criminals to justice?
PILGER: Well we can start thinking about these as war crimes. [...] The invasion of Iraq has killed about a million people. The Nuremberg [indecipherable] described the invasion of a defenceless country as the paramount war crime, in which all the other war crimes are embodies, I am paraphrasing slightly. The reason for that of course, had there not been an invasion of Europe of course, by the Germans, the Nazis, all those horrors probably wouldn’t have happened. I think people, I think we have changed enormously. And it’s that understanding that our “leaders” can commit war crimes [indecipherable] is starting to creep in.
In Britain, I’d never known a prime minister, former prime minister Blair, to be regarded as he is regarded. The majority regard him as a liar. That is unprecedented. Many, many people regard him as a war criminal. A lot of these people are finding it very difficult to plan their travel. Bush the other day, cancelled, George W Bush cancelled a trip to Switzerland. Switzerland has some quirky law, yes, oh yes, it’s quite a democratic country, and one of the laws, which is shared by others, is that if you invade another country and a lot of people are killed then you are on the face if it a war criminal, and you could be prosecuted.
Donald Rumsfeld cancelled a trip to Germany. A lot of the Israeli politicians and generals are starting to avoid Britain because Scotland Yard has actually turned up at Heathrow when the odd general has turned up. This has caused huge dismay in the government, and they are trying to change that. But these laws exist, and what they are doing is they are saying that “our people” are as much war criminals as others if they do commit war crimes. It is a long way to go until we regard them as we might regard Saddam Hussein and others but -
AUDIENCE MEMBER: How can we bring them to justice then?
PILGER: Well, it’s a long road, when the establishments in these countries do not want to bring them to justice.
QUESTION 14: Journalists in war zones, embedding has benefits, how can a journalist work independently in war zones?
PILGER: Thank you for your question, it was answered by somebody who you didn’t see in our film, and that was a very brave young English photojournalist called Guy Smallman who went to Afghanistan on his own, hitched a ride on a voluntary organisation plane, went there, paid his own fair, took his own equipment, didn’t wear a flak jacket. Went to a village in Farah province, which had been wiped out by an American plane, this resulted in the deaths of 147 people, this was disputed, he went there and gathered evidence. He took photographs and counted the mass graves, and he brought it back. That’s how you do it. In his case it was very, very dangerous, but some journalists believe in war time that it is worth it. Journalists have always done that.
But I don’t really believe that the problem is the embedding in the field, that is only part of the problem. The military has always done this. Part of the military’s job is to deceive, that is the way they win wars and it has been true going back to way beyond the modern era. The second world war is famous for its great deceptions and so on. I always regard that as part of the military’s thing, and as a journalist I should be aware of it, and my job is to make sure they don’t deceive me, not to get into bed with them. But I think the problem is not so much that, it is wider embedding that we’ve been discussing here tonight. It’s a wider embedding that goes up to the people who report Canberra, it’s the people who run certain programs on television, the people who write in the Sydney Morning Herald and are flown to the Middle East by the Israeli government or its promoters, it is that kind of embedding that excludes the journalistic challenge, and excludes other views that give people enough information, and a spectrum of other information, upon which to make up their minds. That’s missing.
Pre-film Introduction from John Pilger
Thank you all for coming out in such generous numbers tonight. I would like to follow Paul and thank him and his comrades at Green Left who have done such incredible work in arranging events like this, and just doing the work they do, be it here tonight, at Marrickville council tonight. So all thanks to them.
My thanks also to SBS. I haven’t been on television in Australia for some years. SBS did an excellent job of putting this film to air, and promoting it. So my thanks go to them. It will be shown again on SBS, I don’t know when. The DVD will be available from I believe May 1st.
What I’d like to do is make this mostly a forum about the issues raised in the film. So when I come back after the film has been shown, I’ll say a few words, perhaps bring it up to date a little, but I want to give it over to you to ask me questions, and raise questions about the issues in the film, and I’d like to ask you to keep it to the issues in the film. That’s pretty wide. We are talking about media. This is why we are here tonight. We are talking about media and the way it represents and misrepresents. The way it presents and omits. This film was made about the main broadcast networks in the UK and in the US. It was originally made, like all my films, for the UK network ITV and shown in the UK in December.
But all the issues raised in this film apply here plus, there is a problem, a major problem in communications in Australia. It is the problem, the control of the media, the fact that we have such a dominant force, for example, by the Murdoch organisation in the press itself, and a like-minded dominance in much, if not most, of the rest of the media. These are issues that I think this film will translate, I hope, so although you’re seeing something that was made for, made about, UK and US, these massive corporations, particularly in the US, all apply here, and those are the issues I’d like to discuss when the film ends. I won’t talk anymore, let’s watch it and I look forward to discussing it with you.
Post-film Q&A session
QUESTION 01: How did you get the journalists in the film to talk?
[Missed start of answer]
JOHN PILGER: And two, we think of supply and demand, why do we allow them to sort of get away with this, they are supplying us. I mean first, the thing is the journalist who spoke in that, and the first journalist, whose opening credit you didn’t see, was Rageh Omaar, BBC correspondent in Iraq, he has since left the BBC. I have known him for quite a long time. Like a lot of serious-minded journalists, he was always troubled by this, troubled by the pressures on him in both crude and indirect, subtle, often, and he was more than willing to speak up about it. David Rose of The Observer – The Observer a famous liberal newspaper in Britain – played a major role with The New York Times, which refused to speak to me, by the way. But he did. In spreading the lies of weapons of mass destruction, he was conned, as he says in the film, as so many other senior journalists were. Look, I think it is a straight matter of conscious. They were troubled about it and they were more than happy to speak about it. Those were very long interviews, it’s only bits [...] it was very difficult to cut down, which we had to. I think one of the positive things that happened, there are many serious journalists that are wanting to speak out – that defensiveness that you often find in the media is starting to drop.
Why do we put up with it? Well that’s a question for you to answer, yourselves, isn’t it? The media should be an issue, that’s why it is an issue in this film and it shouldn’t be an abstract issue. There should be people in the doors of News Corporation, or Fairfax, or the ABC, or wherever, you’d be surprised at their surprise that this happened. That they suddenly become the object of complaint and protest. Now that’s one form.
My own idea, I suppose, is that we have to move on and form a public “fifth estate” in which, journalists, people in media colleges, media instructors, those who teach young journalists, and the public have to monitor and learn from what actually happens in the media. The idea of media colleges turning out young journalists to be simply fodder for Murdoch is absurd. Now I know there are real problems there because people need jobs. And in a small, smallish pond, like Australia, media pond, but with the same big sharks floating around in it, it is difficult. But that has to be debated. It has to be discussed. I did write, I have to say, to the major, I thought the major heads of media college departments, asking would they like to take part tonight – I got one reply. And there is a problem, because they are media colleges with real exceptions, honourable exceptions, have become factories, for the kinds of journalism that we don’t deserve any more.
QUESTION 02: Please don’t take this the wrong way because I’m a fan of yours. You talk about right-wing media as stenographers; would you say those in the left-wing media are stenographers also?
PILGER: This is a discussion that we have after we’ve introduced some left-wing into the media. Where is it? I am always troubled why suddenly we are into discussions about left and right, and the “left”, suddenly we are all dropped in the left, which at any given point might include Mr Rudd or Mr Brown. Look, it’s not about left and right, let’s have the left – if we didn’t have Green Left Weekly and if we didn’t have one or two other publications, there simply would be none in Australia, when you have the capital city press, 70% of them owned by Murdoch, most of the rest own owned by Fairfax. Where is this left?
We are talking about people who always – journalists, teachers, it doesn’t matter – who will always have a subjective view, but they can at the same time be truth seekers. They can do their best to find out what is going on, and the best journalism does that. It doesn’t necessarily give up its subjectivity, but it does give up any notion of distortion, or omission, or all those things that blight journalism – so it applies to all. But at the moment, because the media is a great corporate enterprise, that is known, I think fairly as a right, and they run the show. I think what most reasonable people say, well you can run certain newspapers, but we’d like to run some newspapers, and we’d like to have some television, or we’d like to be able to challenge it, to challenge you. And I try in all of my films to bring on the voices of the establishment, and to challenge, because I think there is more to be learned from the likes of the head of BBC news, Fran Unsworth [...] and the journalists you heard, out of their mouths, than out of mine. That challenge, which is a normal journalistic practice, is missing, often entirely.
QUESTION 03: Do you know why the Americans and Britain did what they did?
PILGER: Well. I think that was answered by one of the people in the film, and that was a very good witness Professor Stewart Ewen in the United States who described, for instance, the invasion of Iraq, I think rather succinctly, and he said it was about first of all oil, but not all about oil, it was about ownership of a part of the world, about taking a very important part of the world that was once described by an American president as the stupendous prize of the world.
Just touching on what you were bringing up about Libya, and it certainly is true of Iraq or [any of them], as someone once said rather dryly, if these countries were known for growing carrots we’d have no interest in them.
The short answer to your question is that rich countries have been made rich by many things, but it is one of the major elements, has been acquiring resources, like oil and minerals and a lot of the riches of the earth, that they don’t have. That has come out of, not all that long ago, empires, that now exist in a different form. I think that’s probably about the the most succinct way I can answer, very good question, thank you.
QUESTION 04: Why would Rupert Murdoch have had lunch with Julia Gillard in New York recently?
PILGER: Well that’s a standard lunch. That’s a lunch that she had to have. Rudd, before he was elected, I remember, there was a picture of him emerging from News Corps headquarters in Manhattan, he had lunch. It’s very similar to the – you have a set of picture – I remember in a previous film I used a lot of the pictures of all those Western politicians who used to go and have lunch with Saddam Hussein and sit on his couch and have their picture take and unfortunately for them they all had to appear on the front of the Baghdad newspaper with Saddam Hussein [...] but Murdoch [...] requires all those who want his so-called support to go and literally have lunch with him and more. You find all the British prime ministers of the last 15 years, American presidents, right back to Jimmy Carter, all had a kind of lunch with him. That’s their problem, but we should be aware of it.
I’m not sure we can stop Julia Gillard having lunch with Murdoch, but we should know about it. It should be analysed to us, and not having somebody simply stand up and say some bit of tom-foolerly in front of a camera and saying something about the prime minister meeting Murdoch, if they report it at all [...] and particularly why Gillard has to see Murdoch. It’s pillars of power actually leaning towards each other and we deserve the kind of analysis that we don’t get in our major newspapers.
QUESTION 05: Challenging media in Britain about 50-50 split between giving time to Israel media angle and Palestinian media angle.
PILGER: Part of the film where I question the BBC and their competitors ITV on why they allowed the Israelis to have the, to dominate the coverage of the attack on the peace flotilla. And it’s very interesting because for the first time, I am told, in public, the BBC admitted the systemic intimidation, at all levels, from reporter, producer, up to director general, by Israeli officials. The ITV editor in chief agreed, in effect, when he talked about [indecipherable] propaganda. It’s, I suppose, I think the whole issue of Palestine has moved forward in public understanding hugely over recent years, hugely. And that has been a media response to this public awareness. Australia is largely an exception to this. As we have at the moment, a Murdoch newspaper, the only national newspaper in this country, The Australian, conducting an all-out smear campaign against a couple of Greens who happen to stick their [indecipherable] apparently, and state the obvious. That the connection, and we have something like a Murdoch retainer, [...] David Penberthy, describing what they were doing as reminiscent, and I paraphrase, of Kristallnacht, this is so obscene, so profane, and this connection between criticism of Israel and accusing people of being anti-Semitic, has to end in Australia.
It’s beginning to end. It’s beginning to end in the UK, it’s beginning to end even in the United States, in much of Europe, where people are finally being able, feeling that they can talk about it. And non-violent, completely non-violent campaigns, like the Boycott, Disinvestment and Sanctions campaign, the BDS campaign, which is much more modest than the anti-Apartheid movement but based on that, and supported by the likes of Desmond Tutu, who speaking in the spirit of Nelson Mandela called Palestine the greatest moral issue of our era, are starting to discuss it. There are views on this and those views should be heard, but this thuggish intimidation of people who are simply standing up for a justice is something that is particularly striking in Australia and in the Australian media and in my view reflects the, that monopoly, that omission, censorship by omission that exists more in Australia, than practically in any other Western democracy.
QUESTION 06: You mentioned before about WikiLeaks, and I wanted to put it to you, one of the things released was Kevin Rudd saying to the States [indecipherable] to attack China, I just wonder, if [leaking] that necessarily is in Australia’s national interests, confidential conversations had that could damage our relationships, I was wondering whether or not a line should be drawn when revealing secrets that situation?
PILGER: Why do you think it is damaging?
AUDIENCE MEMBER: Um, well our relations with China.
PILGER: If it’s based on a secret conversation between Kevin Rudd and Hillary Clinton in which he says I think you should deploy force against China, doesn’t that bear down on the relationship with the country that is not party to this conversation? Isn’t this something that we in a democracy have a right to know about? Especially when Mr Rudd is saying something quite different in public. That’s, I don’t know about lines being drawn, I think the line should’ve been drawn on countries being attacked and large numbers of people being killed, and lines being drawn by those who say one thing in private and another in public. They’re our elected, meant to be, elected representatives. What Rudd said was terribly important for us to know about.
It alerts the Chinese to how the Australian government is really thinking and perhaps alerts us to the real dangers of a policy that might not be in our interest, such as calling on the world’s superpower to have a go at China. I can’t see that that is in our interest, can you?
Be assured that most of what you read and hear is what they want us to, and anything that we get, any glimpses, they are only glimpses, I can assure you. That might come through a few outed documents, give us just a glimpse of how it really works.
AUDIENCE MEMBER: are you implying that states should not have any secrets?
PILGER: No, I didn’t say that, no. States should have secrets but before they have secrets they should be accountable, those states, those governments, to us. And until they are accountable, almost on a daily basis, because that is what democracy is, until they are accountable, their secrets are their secrets, not ours. The largest number of secrets are what they know about us, the network of surveillance now [...] is so enormous, and my view is, if they can read our emails, we should read theirs.
QUESTION 07: I’m a journalism student, who you refer to as potential Murdoch fodder I’m just wondering how, with all the consolidation of the mainstream media, and less money to go around to put fewer papers out, how do you actually keep your head above water and do decent investigative journalism?
PILGER: Well it’s very difficult, how you develop skills working for organisations like that, I think it’s almost impossible and I think we’ve got to – these are truths that have got to be faced – and they are hurdles that have to be got over. I think if one is interested in independent journalism, and the two should go together, the words independent and journalism, then yes, there are some institutions you can navigate through. Some broadcast institutions of course. That’s very difficult too. I don’t believe that is true of the Murdoch press. Yes, if you are writing, concentrating on something that doesn’t really have any political place – the gardening pages – (laughter) well, that’s alright, I used to sub the gardening pages once – or if you’re a sports writer, even that, see even that is loaded, Murdoch’s ownership of so much of the people’s pleasure: sport. So I frankly can tell you I don’t think it is possible in the Murdoch press. I think it is in other institutions. But really, there are now many avenues that young journalists, new journalists can go down, they don’t remunerate very well – the net pays nothing, usually – there are school newspapers, there is Green Left, I can tell you that the former editor in chief of the Sydney Morning Herald David Bowman subscribes [to Green Left Weekly] he’s retired, but he subscribes, to find out what the hell is going on.
So if you’re interested in being an independent journalist, it is exploring all departments, it is joining up, it is risky. But that’s a decision you have to make, you have judge it. It’s particularly difficult and I sympathise – in Australia, where there are two major, in newspapers, two major employers, Murdoch and Fairfax. I think that is something that you have to ask yourself.
QUESTION 08: Can I first just say to the journalism student there that asked that question – I’ve worked in the corporate media for 15 years and Green Left Weekly for two and a half years and I’ve learnt more in those two and a half years working for Green Left Weekly than I have in 15 years working for the corporate media. My question is, many people in Sydney see the Sydney Morning Herald as a kind of benign alternative to the Murdoch press, yet when you look at the Herald’s publisher, Fairfax, its directors sit on the boards of other companies and have very specific business interests.
PILGER: Yes.
AUDIENCE MEMBER: Nick Fairfax sits on the board of JSC Sovcomflot, which ships energy products and operates oil tankers and ports…
PILGER: Yes. What is your question?
AUDIENCE MEMBER: My question to you is, how much of an influence do you think those specific business interests, those directorships, have on the kind of reporting that the Sydney Morning Herald and other papers like it, put out?
PILGER: I think they are absolutely direct. As they are on most newspapers that have very broad portfolio of backs, investors. I know this from enquiries done, into probably the most liberal paper in the world, The Guardian, in London, and they’re under the influence of their own corporate backers, or advertisers, on it. They’re there. I think it is the nature of newspapers, of any organisation, that depends on corporate backing. Business people are not there, it is not a charitable enterprise.
If you’re going to have a section called ‘Drive’ and it’s going to have all the cars and so on, they’re not going to welcome an enormous ad saying ‘you’re choking to death on the pollution in your street’ or that some of these cars have certain defects or whatever. If you go back to the famous case of Ralph Nader, who wrote a very good book called Unsafe at Any Speed, in which he blew the whistle on American auto manufacturers turning out cars that were killing people. He couldn’t get that in to newspapers for actually years, before it was finally released and in the end it had an effect and cars were recalled and changed, but it was enormous struggle.
I’m just giving that example because the advertising of motor cars, or the motor industry, is a major component, it may not be direct, it may, it’s not been said to me, when I’ve written for newspapers, that you have to, if you’re writing something about it, remember there is an ad, or something on the paper, but in the overall scheme of things, that will be taken into account. It reflects the overall tone of the newspaper. It certainly once again reflects what is left out.
QUESTION 09: Do you think it’s important for ordinary people to make our own avenues to communicate? [...]
PILGER: Yes, I think you’re doing absolutely the right way, you’re doing it yourself. [...] There is a tremendous appetite for documentaries, I know ITV, the company I make documentaries for, has these surveys constantly, people always come back, when they are asked what do they want most, it’s not reality shows, it’s not all that, it’s documentaries, they go at the top. And so you know, make documentaries, well done with what you’ve done.
QUESTION 10: Q&A, do you see it as a step forward or back?
PILGER: Well my last appearance, I’ve appeared on it twice, and both appearances have been distinguished by one fellow guest, who is apparently across the couple of years, and between times, coincidentally, no doubt, a minister called Craig Emerson, who I felt embodied all that was wrong about Australian politics. Of course almost everything he said, and I don’t want this to be personal, because he is personally very nice to me, but, avoided questions, questions were avoided.
The last Q&A I did I was plonked next to Greg Sheridan and they hoped there would be a fight between the two of us. I regretted going on, I have to say, I don’t regret many things, but I regretted that, and I won’t go on it again. I don’t think it is a step forward, I think occasionally, occasionally, when the questions come from the audience, or that wonderful time when that bloke threw a shoe at John Howard, that was worth it. But I don’t see the point otherwise. And it is being talked up now as a great vehicle for free discussion in Australia, it isn’t, it isn’t. The same old gang, media gang.
There is another thing on Sunday morning, which I’ve seen by accident I have to say, called Insiders, which is just atrocious. This is meant to be people strapping their heads – it’s laughable – there is no real discussion, there is no real information, no one has done any work.
QUESTION 11: United Stated media manipulation and propaganda, is there similar in Australia?
PILGER: There doesn’t have to be. They do it for them. That’s the point about – I mean, you’re right to suggest – there was a famous senate enquiry in the United States in the 1970′s that found that the CIA was involved in some form or another with most leading journalists.
[Camera cut out - a few seconds of this answer were missed]
[Question 11 answer continued...]
PILGER: They will do it. They won’t have the jobs if they don’t do it. That is why they are there to do it. I don’t want to in anyway minimise what you are suggesting, because Australia is absolutely overloaded with intelligence agencies. You know, we’ve got the famous UK and USA Security Act from the second world war that has allowed British intelligence, American intelligence, and our friends at ASIO and ASIS, there are so many of them with so many different basis [indecipherable] a lot of these weather bases across Australia are run for the benefit of international agencies and so on, the point is that we don’t, journalist enquiry into this doesn’t happen. Australia has been traditionally full of spooks -
AUDIENCE MEMBER: do you mean self-censorship as well?
PILGER: It goes even beyond self-censorship, I don’t think people even self-censor. I think they don’t even consider going another way, asking another question, raising it, because the legitimacy of certain questions that are made would be challenged by their own newspaper or organisation. It is so ingrained that authority, the voice from above, has legitimacy, government has legitimacy, institutions do, business does, anybody really claiming to be authority. They are first off the rank.
When I quoted earlier that survey from BBC, looking back, as I have, I’ve sat in a room looking at all these rushes and footage, and it is quite clear that no one, you know, ordinary person or unordinary person, was ever asked about whether they supported this invasion of Iraq. The occasional glimpse of a demo. And that kind of nicely marginalises anyway. So it is like mothers milk, I am afraid, it flows through media. And that is where media colleges and those who teach young journalists, they have to free themselves up, otherwise, as I mentioned, I think it is just producing fodder for organisations and keeping the penny turning around.
QUESTION 12: Regarding phrase from film, “Propaganda of Fear”, used to set agenda for war [...] could it also be used to target a faction or an individual [...] question everything we read?
PILGER: I think questioning should be part of what we do, it should be normal. And yes, propaganda is corruption. Corruption is not just having a hand in someones pocket [...] propaganda is corruption. It is denying people information on which they can make a decision to change things or not to change things. Jefferson called it the currency of free information, propaganda is something that we see as other societies [doing] we see it flowing out of the Middle East, we see it flowing out of demonized regimes [...] but propaganda is something others do.
When Edward Bernays invented the words public relations he said he did so because the journalists in the first world war gave propaganda a bad name. So he had to create what he called false realities. So it’s very subtle and Bernays of course was the nephew of Sigmund Freud so that whole, if you like, Freudian understanding of how we see things is certainly part of it, but it is much wider than that, and it is something that is in urgent need of debate in relation to the media that we get every day. Every time we get into a cab there is the radio [...] the question to ask is what are we getting out of this? Or is this information telling you the same thing over and over and over again, is it repetitive? I think the answer is yes.
QUESTION 13: You called the deaths of civilians in Iraq war crimes, what, in your view, can we do to bring those war criminals to justice?
PILGER: Well we can start thinking about these as war crimes. [...] The invasion of Iraq has killed about a million people. The Nuremberg [indecipherable] described the invasion of a defenceless country as the paramount war crime, in which all the other war crimes are embodies, I am paraphrasing slightly. The reason for that of course, had there not been an invasion of Europe of course, by the Germans, the Nazis, all those horrors probably wouldn’t have happened. I think people, I think we have changed enormously. And it’s that understanding that our “leaders” can commit war crimes [indecipherable] is starting to creep in.
In Britain, I’d never known a prime minister, former prime minister Blair, to be regarded as he is regarded. The majority regard him as a liar. That is unprecedented. Many, many people regard him as a war criminal. A lot of these people are finding it very difficult to plan their travel. Bush the other day, cancelled, George W Bush cancelled a trip to Switzerland. Switzerland has some quirky law, yes, oh yes, it’s quite a democratic country, and one of the laws, which is shared by others, is that if you invade another country and a lot of people are killed then you are on the face if it a war criminal, and you could be prosecuted.
Donald Rumsfeld cancelled a trip to Germany. A lot of the Israeli politicians and generals are starting to avoid Britain because Scotland Yard has actually turned up at Heathrow when the odd general has turned up. This has caused huge dismay in the government, and they are trying to change that. But these laws exist, and what they are doing is they are saying that “our people” are as much war criminals as others if they do commit war crimes. It is a long way to go until we regard them as we might regard Saddam Hussein and others but -
AUDIENCE MEMBER: How can we bring them to justice then?
PILGER: Well, it’s a long road, when the establishments in these countries do not want to bring them to justice.
QUESTION 14: Journalists in war zones, embedding has benefits, how can a journalist work independently in war zones?
PILGER: Thank you for your question, it was answered by somebody who you didn’t see in our film, and that was a very brave young English photojournalist called Guy Smallman who went to Afghanistan on his own, hitched a ride on a voluntary organisation plane, went there, paid his own fair, took his own equipment, didn’t wear a flak jacket. Went to a village in Farah province, which had been wiped out by an American plane, this resulted in the deaths of 147 people, this was disputed, he went there and gathered evidence. He took photographs and counted the mass graves, and he brought it back. That’s how you do it. In his case it was very, very dangerous, but some journalists believe in war time that it is worth it. Journalists have always done that.
But I don’t really believe that the problem is the embedding in the field, that is only part of the problem. The military has always done this. Part of the military’s job is to deceive, that is the way they win wars and it has been true going back to way beyond the modern era. The second world war is famous for its great deceptions and so on. I always regard that as part of the military’s thing, and as a journalist I should be aware of it, and my job is to make sure they don’t deceive me, not to get into bed with them. But I think the problem is not so much that, it is wider embedding that we’ve been discussing here tonight. It’s a wider embedding that goes up to the people who report Canberra, it’s the people who run certain programs on television, the people who write in the Sydney Morning Herald and are flown to the Middle East by the Israeli government or its promoters, it is that kind of embedding that excludes the journalistic challenge, and excludes other views that give people enough information, and a spectrum of other information, upon which to make up their minds. That’s missing.
fromKate Ausburn On April 19th, 2011
Saturday, April 09, 2011
Pilger's new film: media’s pro-war spin exposed by Kate Ausburn
John Pilger’s latest film, The War You Don’t See, looks at the power wielded by journalists reporting conflict. It examines the responsibility of the media in justifying and supporting the wars our governments wage.
Pilger asks: “What is the role of the media in rapacious wars like Iraq and Afghanistan and how are the crimes of war reported and justified?
“Those whose job it is to keep the record straight ought to be the voice of people, not power.”
The film examines, using a series of examples, how governments are able to maintain control of public perception through manipulation of the “free” press: embedded journalism, “official” statements, and the omission of certain spokespeople and voices in our news bulletins.
Pilger draws out the consequences graphically. Children die because of political decisions made on the other side of the world. Displaced families have lost their homes in supposedly targeted bombing attacks to overcome the “the enemy”.
Women who have lost their husbands, mothers who have lost their sons, children who have lost their fathers, because they were tortured to death in interrogations to find that same ever-elusive “enemy”.
These are the stories we don’t often hear, and they are the stories Pilger challenges us to seek out as viewers and report as journalists.
This film, like his other works, provides a perspective on war that is often unheard in a media landscape dominated by corporate interests.
This film, like his other works, provides a perspective on war that is often unheard in a media landscape dominated by corporate interests.
Pilger interviews a variety of newsmakers and others involved in the way the media report wars. Particular attention is focused on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the ongoing occupation of Palestinian territories.
Pilger speaks with news chiefs at Britain’s BBC and ITV to probe them about what they perceive their roles to be (reporting what government spokespeople say). He also challenges the use of reports from journalists who have been “embedded” with US or British military (“news” controlled by the military).
Lawyer Phil Shiner points out the issues with accepting reports from embedded journalists as properly representative of the reality of war: “The problem with embedded journalism is all we are seeing is the point of view of the troops, we are not seeing or hearing from the civilians who are on the wrong end of their tactics.
“So let’s take detention. It seems clear that British forces in Iraq killed many people, maybe hundreds, of civilians when they had custody of them, and did the most extraordinary, brutal things involving sexual acts etc.
“Embedded journalism is never going to get close to hearing the stories of those Iraqis.”
Comments made by Carne Ross, who worked for the British Foreign Office until 2004, revealed techniques used to achieve “supportive” reporting from journalists.
“If journalists were not particularly supportive to our account, we would freeze them out, we would make life harder for them … certain journalists are rewarded with access for being supportive of the story,” says Ross.
Pilger interviews independent, non-embedded journalists who set a very different example.
He speaks to journalist Dahr Jamal. Jamal travelled independently across Iraq as the US-led war raged.
This included multiple visits to Fallujah, where Jamal reported on a city destroyed by occupation force attacks, including with white phosphorous. Up to 70% of all buildings were totally destroyed and thousands killed, facts the mainstream media largely ignored.
Guy Smallman is another independent media worker Pilger speaks to.
Smallman is a photojournalist and speaks of his experiences in Afghanistan, where the foreign military occupation is now coming up to its 10th year.
“At one far end of the cemetery,” Smallman says of one place he visited, “there was one enormous mass grave that was around 30 metres across. And in that grave were the remains of 55 people, and they had to be buried there together because they were quite literally blown into pieces.
“And it was impossible to tell who was who, so they had to bury them together, in one long trench.”
Smallman also notes the discrepancy between “official” and local reports of civilian deaths: “The local people insisted that over 140 civilians had died, and NATO said there was 25.”
Also included in the film is an excerpt of the now notorious WikiLeaks-released “Collateral Murder” video — a graphic, visual demonstration of the war we don’t see.
Pilger’s interview with Julian Assange makes for especially captivating viewing.
Both Pilger and Assange have a proven commitment to a type of reporting that challenges the journalistic status quo and refuses to be constrained by the voices that shout the loudest.
Pilger has a long career of investigative journalism, prolific in its commitment to empowering unheard voices in the spirit of truthful conflict reporting.
Assange is a representative of those pushing a new frontier in reporting and publishing that, while different in its method, is also giving a platform to truths often buried or ignored.
The War You Don’t See is a confronting film that leaves the viewer pondering whether war would continue if our eyes into conflict were not those of embedded journalists and government officials, but those of aid workers, independent media workers, and most importantly, civilians.
It is a must-see film calling journalists to account and holding up the importance of investigative, independent journalism, and a critical standpoint by viewers.
Sunday, April 3, 2011 Green Left Weekly
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